WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:01.800 City clerk. Police take roll. 00:00:03.840 --> 00:00:06.440 Councilmember Cannabis Beer. Councilmember Joe Breck. 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:09.120 Councilmember Lenz. Here. Councilmember Walmsley. Present. 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:13.800 Council Member. Right. Vice Mayor Fugazi. 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:15.800 Present. Mayor Lincoln. President. We have a quorum. 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:17.920 Thank you. At this time, I'd like to invite Chaplain Jesse with Stockton 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:21.920 Police Department forward to the podium to open this up. 00:00:23.400 --> 00:00:25.400 With the invocation. 00:00:25.400 --> 00:00:27.840 For another prayer. And I just want to say 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:31.960 my service to our city 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:38.320 and their. 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:41.920 Effort to them. OK, thank you. 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:46.920 We want to hear can we hear it. One more time? Chaplain 00:00:49.680 --> 00:00:52.361 hold this. That's it. That's all you got. 00:00:52.681 --> 00:00:55.401 Now get back to work. Right. 00:00:55.961 --> 00:00:57.641 All right. Let's bow our heads and go to Lord in prayer. 00:01:00.401 --> 00:01:03.401 Father God, we come before you today. Thank you. So much, Father. For all that you've done. 00:01:04.961 --> 00:01:06.561 In our lives. We come before you in great joy. 00:01:09.100 --> 00:01:11.100 Knowing that we come before the Lord, 00:01:11.410 --> 00:01:13.561 the creator of the universe. The all powerful. 00:01:13.561 --> 00:01:15.561 The all knowing the all present. 00:01:16.121 --> 00:01:19.100 But we also come forward with a little bit of. Trepidation, knowing. 00:01:19.401 --> 00:01:21.401 That you wield all of that power. 00:01:22.810 --> 00:01:24.121 But your love, Father. Cutts, that 00:01:24.121 --> 00:01:26.121 your love makes us understand how much you want to know 00:01:26.881 --> 00:01:28.801 what's on our hearts. And so tonight, we come before you. 00:01:29.441 --> 00:01:31.441 First of all, what thanks we give you. 00:01:31.921 --> 00:01:33.801 Thanks for the leaders that you brought to Stockton rather we 00:01:34.641 --> 00:01:36.641 thank you for our city manager, Harry Black. 00:01:37.761 --> 00:01:39.761 We thank you for our mayor, Kevin Lincoln. 00:01:40.322 --> 00:01:43.200 We thank you for all of the council. Members and all of the other 00:01:43.282 --> 00:01:45.282 appointed leaders including our new. 00:01:45.602 --> 00:01:47.602 Chief of police. 00:01:48.820 --> 00:01:50.820 We also want to thank you, Father, for the informal. 00:01:50.282 --> 00:01:52.282 Leaders that we have in our. Community. 00:01:52.322 --> 00:01:54.322 We thank you for those who lead from businesses, 00:01:55.762 --> 00:01:57.762 from nonprofits, from churches, for educators. 00:01:59.282 --> 00:02:01.282 Activists of various causes, 00:02:01.682 --> 00:02:04.442 though, we thank you for how they stand. Up, for the importance areas. Of our community as well. 00:02:07.122 --> 00:02:09.122 Lord, we pray 00:02:09.202 --> 00:02:11.402 for the schools of. Stockton. 00:02:13.442 --> 00:02:15.442 And for our children. 00:02:16.802 --> 00:02:18.802 And for the trials that they must face. 00:02:19.162 --> 00:02:21.162 Our recent tragedy. 00:02:21.362 --> 00:02:23.362 And the healing that needs to happen there. 00:02:25.362 --> 00:02:27.962 We pray. Arduously, father, for our families of Stockton, that they would prosper. 00:02:31.123 --> 00:02:33.123 We pray for those who have no families. 00:02:33.163 --> 00:02:35.963 We pray for. The homeless. The distraught, the marginalized. 00:02:39.843 --> 00:02:41.843 We also come before you tonight to pray for. 00:02:41.963 --> 00:02:43.963 The matters of Stockton, for these men and women who are 00:02:44.643 --> 00:02:47.603 tending to these tonight. We ask that you grant them as leaders extraordinary wisdom. 00:02:50.683 --> 00:02:52.683 Compassion and focused. 00:02:52.803 --> 00:02:54.803 Intentionality. 00:02:55.123 --> 00:02:56.803 We ask that. You strengthen their understanding of matters 00:02:58.830 --> 00:02:59.843 before them. So that they can guide us 00:03:00.803 --> 00:03:02.803 correctly as a great city in this nation. 00:03:04.163 --> 00:03:06.323 We pray for all those. Who come here tonight to speak 00:03:07.563 --> 00:03:09.563 that their hearts would come with true intentions. 00:03:11.300 --> 00:03:13.963 And transparency. That they would speak in love 00:03:15.723 --> 00:03:17.723 and truthfulness. 00:03:17.963 --> 00:03:19.963 And as somebody said just before these doors opens, 00:03:20.324 --> 00:03:22.844 we need to hear all voices. Father 00:03:24.684 --> 00:03:27.644 Lastly, Father, I want to thank you for the men and women that serve our great community each and every day. 00:03:30.844 --> 00:03:33.764 Those that are our first responders, whether they're medics. 00:03:34.404 --> 00:03:36.404 Fire. Police. 00:03:37.404 --> 00:03:39.404 We ask that you continue to give them courage 00:03:39.684 --> 00:03:41.684 and compassion as they service 00:03:42.804 --> 00:03:44.804 not only them but their families as well. 00:03:46.644 --> 00:03:48.644 And, Father, we thank you for all of these great gifts 00:03:48.844 --> 00:03:50.804 that you've given us. That strengthen our community 00:03:52.164 --> 00:03:54.164 through all of these individuals. 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:57.524 And we look forward to tonight's. Session and the matters. 00:03:57.804 --> 00:03:59.804 That are attended to 00:04:00.124 --> 00:04:02.124 and see how that continues to guide our city 00:04:02.604 --> 00:04:04.604 in a very positive and healthy path. 00:04:06.404 --> 00:04:09.284 Father, thank you for all that you've blessed us with through all the COVID you have provided, 00:04:12.845 --> 00:04:14.845 through all of the struggles that we don't see and the. 00:04:14.885 --> 00:04:16.885 Ones that we know and don't. Think we can. Overcome. 00:04:17.485 --> 00:04:19.485 You're always there in attendance, 00:04:20.525 --> 00:04:22.525 guiding us, protecting us, and. 00:04:22.565 --> 00:04:24.565 Providing for us. 00:04:24.605 --> 00:04:26.685 We pray all these things. Knowing and trusting in you. 00:04:27.485 --> 00:04:30.245 We pray this in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. 00:04:31.450 --> 00:04:33.450 Thank you, Chairman 00:04:34.685 --> 00:04:36.885 At this time, I'd like to ask Councilmember Wright to lead us in the flag. Salute. 00:04:37.965 --> 00:04:39.965 Please stand. 00:04:42.765 --> 00:04:44.485 Ready to begin by saying allegiance to the flag 00:04:46.925 --> 00:04:48.925 of the United States of America and to the Republic. 00:04:50.525 --> 00:04:53.125 For which it stands. One nation, under God. 00:04:54.445 --> 00:04:56.445 Indivisible, with liberty and. 00:04:56.805 --> 00:04:58.805 Justice for all. 00:04:59.525 --> 00:05:01.525 Thank you. 00:05:02.886 --> 00:05:04.166 Thank you. Item three There are any additions to the close 00:05:05.566 --> 00:05:07.566 session this evening, so we'll move on. 00:05:07.686 --> 00:05:09.686 And for recognitions, announcements or reports. 00:05:10.326 --> 00:05:12.326 Clerk Do we have any recognition announcements or reports 00:05:13.860 --> 00:05:15.860 this evening? 00:05:15.766 --> 00:05:17.166 We do. Mayor 00:05:19.206 --> 00:05:21.206 The proclamation 00:05:23.406 --> 00:05:25.246 mental health is essential in our overall health and well-being. 00:05:27.486 --> 00:05:29.486 And. Whereas, 00:05:31.486 --> 00:05:33.486 and. Whereas, millions of adults and children 00:05:33.526 --> 00:05:35.526 across America experience mental health conditions, 00:05:36.860 --> 00:05:38.860 including anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, 00:05:38.406 --> 00:05:40.406 bipolar disorder, and post traumatic stress disorder. 00:05:41.566 --> 00:05:43.566 And. Whereas, people with mental health illnesses recover 00:05:44.886 --> 00:05:46.886 if given the necessary human touch services and supports 00:05:48.526 --> 00:05:50.526 to enable them and make important contributions 00:05:51.870 --> 00:05:54.700 to their families and communities. Now, therefore, I Kevin Jay Lincoln, the second 00:05:55.647 --> 00:05:58.607 mayor of the city of Stockton and members of the Stockton City Council do hereby proclaim 00:06:00.847 --> 00:06:02.847 the month of May 2022 as Mental Health Awareness Month. 00:06:04.967 --> 00:06:07.700 We ask you to join us in raising awareness around mental health, 00:06:08.167 --> 00:06:10.367 giving help and hope in working together as we dispel the stigma and discrimination 00:06:13.207 --> 00:06:15.207 through love, support, education and advocacy. 00:06:16.527 --> 00:06:18.527 In witness whereof on this second day of May, 2022 00:06:28.870 --> 00:06:30.870 Now if I can please ask my staff who is. 00:06:30.847 --> 00:06:33.447 Present and. I can call them to the podium 00:06:35.887 --> 00:06:37.887 of the proclamation. 00:06:40.528 --> 00:06:42.528 Whereas the Office of the Municipal Clerk 00:06:43.168 --> 00:06:45.168 is one of the oldest professions among public servants and. 00:06:46.288 --> 00:06:48.288 WHEREAS, the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk 00:06:48.728 --> 00:06:50.728 provides the professional link between citizens, 00:06:51.448 --> 00:06:53.888 the local governing bodies and agencies of the government at various levels 00:06:56.128 --> 00:06:58.128 whereas the professional municipal. 00:06:58.608 --> 00:07:01.408 Clerk serves. As information center on functions of local government and community. 00:07:03.568 --> 00:07:06.528 And. Whereas, the professional municipal clerk continually strives to improve administration 00:07:07.888 --> 00:07:09.888 in affairs of the Office of the Professional 00:07:10.648 --> 00:07:12.488 and Municipal Clerk. Do participation in education programs, seminars, workshops, 00:07:15.648 --> 00:07:18.328 annual meetings, and their state and county and international professional organizations. 00:07:20.848 --> 00:07:22.848 We are pleased to recognize the value of the professional 00:07:23.488 --> 00:07:25.488 municipal clerks that you bring 00:07:25.608 --> 00:07:28.608 thank you for the unwavering commitment to. Ensure just and transparent. 00:07:29.928 --> 00:07:32.169 Government. Now, therefore, I Kevin Jay Lincoln, the second 00:07:33.689 --> 00:07:36.209 as Mayor of the city of Stockton, and on behalf of the Stockton City Council, do hereby proclaim 00:07:38.900 --> 00:07:40.900 the week of April 1st through seventh 2022 00:07:41.489 --> 00:07:43.489 as professional municipal clerk's week. 00:07:44.900 --> 00:07:45.729 We appreciate your longstanding dedication and serving our community 00:07:47.769 --> 00:07:49.769 in witness whereof on this second day of May 2022. 00:07:56.249 --> 00:07:57.729 I just want to say a real quick thank you to our amazing clerk 00:08:00.900 --> 00:08:02.209 for being one of the people that make sure that we recognize our work every year. 00:08:04.169 --> 00:08:06.969 And I want to say thank you to the staff downstairs. There's only seven of us, 00:08:07.289 --> 00:08:09.369 but you don't get to see us tonight because everybody's still working. 00:08:10.409 --> 00:08:12.409 So if you could stop by and give them a 00:08:12.769 --> 00:08:14.769 a thanks in a hollow, we'd appreciate it. 00:08:16.649 --> 00:08:18.649 In addition. 00:08:21.170 --> 00:08:23.500 In addition to that, I just wanted to note that we are a small office of seven. 00:08:26.370 --> 00:08:28.370 However, we support the city's over 00:08:29.900 --> 00:08:31.900 22 boards and commissions, as well. 00:08:31.210 --> 00:08:33.210 As this very important board. 00:08:33.290 --> 00:08:35.290 My staff continually strives to go above and beyond 00:08:36.450 --> 00:08:38.890 when sometimes I just can't touch everything 00:08:39.450 --> 00:08:41.100 So I did want to take this moment to publicly thank my staff. 00:08:42.450 --> 00:08:45.250 I'm honored and blessed to have. The wonderful team that I. Have. 00:08:45.330 --> 00:08:47.330 So thank you for the support in allowing me to build them and. 00:08:54.530 --> 00:08:56.690 Thank you. And five Public Comments. 00:08:57.900 --> 00:08:59.900 The City of Stockton invites public participation in multiple forms. 00:09:01.500 --> 00:09:03.500 You provide your comments by using one of these methods. 00:09:03.930 --> 00:09:05.570 E Comments. A link is located on the city's agenda page. 00:09:06.810 --> 00:09:08.810 Email City Clerk at Stockton, Cedar Grove, G-o-v. 00:09:09.570 --> 00:09:11.570 If you have any questions email, you may email your comments 00:09:12.851 --> 00:09:14.851 to City Dot Clerk at Stockton S.a.g. 00:09:15.331 --> 00:09:17.771 of voicemail. You can leave a voice message by dialing 2099378459. 00:09:23.110 --> 00:09:25.110 If you have any questions regarding any of these forms 00:09:26.910 --> 00:09:28.910 of participation, please contact the Office of the City Clerk. 00:09:29.691 --> 00:09:31.691 Each Speaker is limited to three minute comment opportunity 00:09:33.811 --> 00:09:35.811 City Clerk. 00:09:36.211 --> 00:09:38.211 This is a time for citizens 00:09:38.251 --> 00:09:40.891 comments, announcements or invitations. You may comment on any subject within the within 00:09:42.811 --> 00:09:45.651 the jurisdiction of the City Council, including items on the agenda. 00:09:46.771 --> 00:09:48.771 This is not a time for discussion with the Council 00:09:49.110 --> 00:09:51.110 regarding subjects not on the agenda for this meeting. 00:09:51.651 --> 00:09:53.651 As the Brown Act limits such discussions, 00:09:54.211 --> 00:09:57.131 comments made by members of the public during this item may not reflect the viewpoint 00:09:58.771 --> 00:10:01.172 of the members of the Council. We ask that you maintain the rules of decorum 00:10:02.292 --> 00:10:05.292 as outlined in the City Council meeting decorum policy title for Chapter 4.03 Paragraph two, 00:10:08.920 --> 00:10:10.920 which reads Persons addressing the Council shall not make 00:10:11.212 --> 00:10:13.692 personal, impertinent, unduly repetitive, slanderous or profane remarks 00:10:15.732 --> 00:10:17.652 to the Council. Any members of the Council City staff 00:10:19.292 --> 00:10:21.292 or the general public nor letter loud, threatening, personal 00:10:23.132 --> 00:10:25.132 or abusive language, nor engage in any other conduct 00:10:26.732 --> 00:10:28.732 that disrupts, disturbs or otherwise unreasonably 00:10:30.572 --> 00:10:32.572 impedes the orderly conduct of this of the Council meeting. 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:36.120 Any person who makes such remarks, 00:10:36.212 --> 00:10:38.212 who utters loud, threatening, personal, or abusive language, 00:10:40.372 --> 00:10:42.372 who is unduly repetitious or engages 00:10:43.132 --> 00:10:45.132 in extended discussions of irrelevancies, or who engages 00:10:46.892 --> 00:10:48.612 in disorderly conduct that disrupts disturbs or otherwise unreasonably 00:10:50.893 --> 00:10:52.893 impedes the orderly conduct of any council meeting, shall, 00:10:54.733 --> 00:10:56.733 at the discretion of the Presiding Officer 00:10:56.853 --> 00:10:58.853 or a majority of the Council be barred from further audience 00:11:00.413 --> 00:11:02.413 before the Council during that meeting. 00:11:02.773 --> 00:11:04.773 In short, we do not allow personal attacks. 00:11:05.333 --> 00:11:07.333 Therefore, please be respectful of these chambers 00:11:08.253 --> 00:11:10.253 Of all who sit here and of the viewing audience. 00:11:11.333 --> 00:11:13.933 Clerk Do we have any comments from members of the public for content items 00:11:15.173 --> 00:11:17.173 or items not listed on the agenda this evening? 00:11:17.653 --> 00:11:19.653 We do. Mayor, first we have Miss Kathleen Gibson 00:11:28.930 --> 00:11:29.973 Good evening. Mayor Bice, mayor, council city manager and staff 00:11:32.373 --> 00:11:35.213 many thanks to our man for the kindness always to Stockton residents. You are the best. 00:11:36.773 --> 00:11:38.773 And I'm so proud how you were present. 00:11:39.293 --> 00:11:42.254 City manager back admire you. You have earned every penny in my book by the courage 00:11:44.534 --> 00:11:46.534 and foresight in choosing our new police chief. 00:11:47.494 --> 00:11:50.334 It takes determination. And I am so proud of you for implementing 00:11:51.694 --> 00:11:54.334 the people's choice. Man Patton breaks every mold of the good old boys 00:11:56.654 --> 00:11:59.174 club mentality. Things will change 00:11:59.174 --> 00:12:01.174 for the betterment of Stockton, in my opinion. 00:12:01.734 --> 00:12:03.734 I can't wait. I'm so excited. 00:12:03.974 --> 00:12:06.374 We have needed some new blood from the top down for a long time. 00:12:08.974 --> 00:12:10.974 We have in the works pools for kids 00:12:11.614 --> 00:12:13.614 We will have three pools out of commission, and Oak Park 00:12:14.934 --> 00:12:16.934 can wait on their pool until next season. 00:12:18.140 --> 00:12:20.140 Otherwise, there will be no pools 00:12:20.174 --> 00:12:22.174 for any of the kids to swim in this summer. 00:12:23.614 --> 00:12:25.540 Pixie Woods does not need a massive amount of money. 00:12:27.540 --> 00:12:29.540 It has been given plenty for now. 00:12:29.254 --> 00:12:31.254 It is for little kids and new rides will not change it. 00:12:32.695 --> 00:12:34.695 I am here for new sidewalks. 00:12:34.895 --> 00:12:36.895 I took a poll on an inflatable sidewalk a few months ago. 00:12:38.175 --> 00:12:40.655 I can take a punch. After many years of being a trained fighter in my youth, 00:12:42.815 --> 00:12:44.815 but hitting the sidewalk with my face almost knocked me out. 00:12:46.295 --> 00:12:48.775 I walked around with massive bruising on my face, chin injured for a couple of weeks. 00:12:51.895 --> 00:12:53.895 Very unpleasant. It was awful. 00:12:54.135 --> 00:12:56.135 I have yet to fill out an Internet report. 00:12:56.615 --> 00:12:58.615 I was lucky to have had help from a witness. 00:13:01.575 --> 00:13:03.575 Coyotes are causing sidewalks to buckle, and right now 00:13:05.215 --> 00:13:07.215 it is imperative to fix the many broken sidewalks. 00:13:08.455 --> 00:13:10.455 Elderly cannot maneuver walkers or other devices 00:13:11.815 --> 00:13:13.855 on our walkways. We must fix them. OK. 00:13:15.550 --> 00:13:17.550 A lot of people can't even walk their kids. 00:13:17.175 --> 00:13:19.775 They go around my neighborhood. But I just look and it looks like the earthquake came 00:13:22.536 --> 00:13:24.536 and waves in the sidewalks all around a school 00:13:25.776 --> 00:13:27.776 on a busy street to man is just not good. 00:13:30.256 --> 00:13:32.256 Talking about infrastructure. 00:13:32.376 --> 00:13:34.376 We might as well fix those things 00:13:34.656 --> 00:13:37.616 because those things are very important. And they're a start because we used to be the city of trees 00:13:39.616 --> 00:13:41.616 Now we're getting to be the city of dead trees. 00:13:42.976 --> 00:13:44.896 There's nothing. And then our arborists, 00:13:45.576 --> 00:13:47.776 I don't know where they come from, but they cut down good trees, too. 00:13:48.776 --> 00:13:50.776 So I don't know who monitors that, but we need to 00:13:52.216 --> 00:13:54.856 to look at all those things. And I know $10 million seems like a lot of money, 00:13:56.456 --> 00:13:58.456 but it's not I don't think it can be fixed. 00:13:58.976 --> 00:14:00.976 Underpass over there on charged away. 00:14:01.296 --> 00:14:03.296 I think we're going to need a lot more money. 00:14:03.816 --> 00:14:05.816 OK, so when we're talking about other things, I mean, the small 00:14:07.216 --> 00:14:09.216 things that you guys consider priorities. 00:14:09.936 --> 00:14:12.697 Man, let's get it fixed. Let's get em started. It's time. 00:14:14.170 --> 00:14:16.170 And I'm always saying local, then global. 00:14:16.537 --> 00:14:18.537 If we can't build a good foundation here, in Stockton, 00:14:19.457 --> 00:14:21.217 we're not going to go anywhere else to make ourselves any any more useful. 00:14:23.617 --> 00:14:25.617 So we might as well start here locally. 00:14:25.897 --> 00:14:27.897 Thank you very much. And I'm really proud of you. Guys. 00:14:28.897 --> 00:14:31.697 And you, mercy. I like the questions you ask and the timetables you demand. 00:14:34.377 --> 00:14:36.497 Keep it up. And then that way, I don't have to be so combative. 00:14:38.570 --> 00:14:40.570 Thank you. 00:14:40.577 --> 00:14:42.577 Nate, not 00:14:47.297 --> 00:14:49.417 good afternoon. Great to be able to speak to Nate. 00:14:49.737 --> 00:14:51.737 Not ten, 21 west Acacia Street. 00:14:52.297 --> 00:14:55.217 Despite what you may think, I didn't actually come here to talk about the Stockton heat tonight, 00:14:56.777 --> 00:14:58.297 although I did. Notice the honorable not just figures in her heat. 00:14:59.217 --> 00:15:01.217 Colors as well as the city clerk. 00:15:01.778 --> 00:15:04.538 I was actually downtown today. For a small business week in the. 00:15:05.218 --> 00:15:07.858 Courtyard Plaza building, where, thanks to the generosity 00:15:08.980 --> 00:15:10.980 of the Bank of Stockton, I set up many of their historic 00:15:10.458 --> 00:15:12.538 archive photos. Those big, huge posters and some of my own archives 00:15:14.338 --> 00:15:17.258 from the Stockton Downtown Comeback Club. Now in its 26 year of meeting on Thursday morning 00:15:19.218 --> 00:15:21.218 to discuss the revitalization of downtown Stockton 00:15:22.580 --> 00:15:24.580 and we'll set up those archives again Thursday afternoon 00:15:25.578 --> 00:15:27.578 from 11 to two roughly and next Wednesday from about 11 to two. 00:15:30.418 --> 00:15:32.418 And I mentioned next Wednesday because that will 00:15:32.698 --> 00:15:34.698 they did announce today that will be the next 00:15:34.738 --> 00:15:36.738 the first Heat home playoff game for the Calder Cup 00:15:38.338 --> 00:15:40.858 will be this coming a week from tomorrow right on Wednesday night I did want to mention that I am here. 00:15:42.778 --> 00:15:44.778 In my heat outfit. 00:15:44.818 --> 00:15:47.218 That the buzz is back. Their last home game did draw 4400 people. 00:15:49.458 --> 00:15:51.458 That's the largest hockey crowd since the teddy bear toss 00:15:52.299 --> 00:15:54.299 back in 2019 and the Stockton sports July 4th 00:15:56.419 --> 00:15:58.419 fireworks game in July or July yeah July of 2019 00:16:00.499 --> 00:16:02.499 and since the Pacific basketball game against BYU back in 2018. 00:16:05.419 --> 00:16:07.419 So that shows what happens with a week of a month 00:16:07.979 --> 00:16:09.979 I should say of marketing without the COVID restrictions 00:16:11.590 --> 00:16:12.899 so the team can definitely continue to draw fans in the Stockton arena. 00:16:15.699 --> 00:16:17.699 I am here actually primarily to speak to another specific 00:16:18.219 --> 00:16:20.859 agenda item so I'll say those comments when that agenda item comes up. 00:16:21.779 --> 00:16:23.779 Thank you very much. 00:16:25.939 --> 00:16:27.939 Mark stebbins. 00:16:33.819 --> 00:16:35.819 In event 00:16:37.499 --> 00:16:39.499 perhaps start with the comment 00:16:39.979 --> 00:16:41.979 from the fair by Albert Kamau 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:45.200 said the problem for modern man 00:16:46.140 --> 00:16:48.140 is not taking what you really don't want 00:16:52.300 --> 00:16:54.300 my text for this me 00:16:55.980 --> 00:16:57.980 from Isaiah 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:00.200 seeking the good of the city 00:17:01.220 --> 00:17:03.220 where I have sent you 00:17:05.220 --> 00:17:07.220 son Stockton 00:17:07.620 --> 00:17:09.620 according to the thousand 15 grand jury 00:17:11.820 --> 00:17:13.820 has been neglected for 40 years. 00:17:16.340 --> 00:17:19.100 They were wrong of course it was more like 50 00:17:21.540 --> 00:17:23.540 and now it's approaching 60 00:17:26.600 --> 00:17:28.600 so Stockton 00:17:28.220 --> 00:17:30.220 normally does not get maintenance 00:17:33.301 --> 00:17:35.301 police services 00:17:37.781 --> 00:17:39.781 the services 00:17:41.341 --> 00:17:43.781 well, so does not get the opportunity to 00:17:46.741 --> 00:17:48.741 have water 00:17:48.981 --> 00:17:50.981 at the cost that each one in North Stockton 00:17:52.301 --> 00:17:54.301 piece, that is we pay one third more 00:17:56.101 --> 00:17:58.101 for the cost of our water than you do 00:18:00.610 --> 00:18:02.610 if you live in north Stockton 00:18:04.210 --> 00:18:06.210 South Stockton has 00:18:07.901 --> 00:18:09.901 continued to be 00:18:10.461 --> 00:18:12.461 segregated 00:18:14.741 --> 00:18:16.461 it would not allow Stockton would not allow people of color 00:18:18.461 --> 00:18:20.461 to buy houses in Stockton at all until after the war. 00:18:24.822 --> 00:18:26.142 And the first one who bought a house in South Stockton, Mrs. 00:18:28.222 --> 00:18:30.702 Howard had to buy it by getting a teacher 00:18:32.502 --> 00:18:34.502 from Stockton Unified to buy it and then dealing that to her 00:18:38.582 --> 00:18:39.982 south. Stockton 00:18:41.620 --> 00:18:43.620 is neglected 00:18:45.502 --> 00:18:47.502 in 1967 00:18:49.382 --> 00:18:51.382 major deal was put on the ballot. 00:18:52.620 --> 00:18:54.620 So the public housing could be spread 00:18:55.502 --> 00:18:57.502 throughout Stockton it was defeated 00:18:59.342 --> 00:19:01.342 three to two 00:19:02.822 --> 00:19:05.702 all of south Stockton 00:19:07.262 --> 00:19:09.262 needs 00:19:09.822 --> 00:19:11.822 remedial work 00:19:13.743 --> 00:19:15.703 all of south Stockton needs to be able to not really get 00:19:19.230 --> 00:19:21.230 the protection that you deserve and spineless park 00:19:23.103 --> 00:19:25.103 but maybe a third or sixth of it 00:19:26.463 --> 00:19:28.463 something like that because we don't get that now 00:19:31.230 --> 00:19:33.230 so I'll speak later on the items for parks. 00:19:36.863 --> 00:19:38.863 Thank you 00:19:39.743 --> 00:19:42.703 that concludes our public comment. Thank you 00:19:44.423 --> 00:19:46.423 item six Consent Agenda. 00:19:47.343 --> 00:19:49.343 Then the council to approve. 00:19:49.823 --> 00:19:51.823 OK, catch your votes please. 00:20:12.304 --> 00:20:14.664 Walk over. Vote again. 00:20:15.344 --> 00:20:17.344 Catch your bills, please. 00:20:20.944 --> 00:20:22.944 Motion carries 70. 00:20:23.944 --> 00:20:26.224 Thank you. There is an infant administrator. 00:20:26.824 --> 00:20:28.824 There aren't any administrator matters unfinished business. 00:20:29.624 --> 00:20:31.624 So we'll move to item nine New Business 9.1 00:20:34.704 --> 00:20:36.704 Overview of the mosquito track enhanced infrastructure 00:20:37.584 --> 00:20:39.584 financing district and Draft Infrastructure Financial Plan 00:20:41.704 --> 00:20:43.640 Staff. You have the floor to present. 00:20:45.944 --> 00:20:48.264 I think so. My name is Seth Roselle. 00:20:48.424 --> 00:20:50.424 I'm a consultant to the San Joaquin Area Flood Control 00:20:51.585 --> 00:20:53.585 Agency, and I'm here to present this item tonight. 00:20:54.585 --> 00:20:56.585 To the to the council. 00:20:57.225 --> 00:20:59.865 There is a PowerPoint presentation that I provided to staff, so I was hoping that 00:21:00.745 --> 00:21:03.745 that could be brought up and I can. There we go. Excellent. Thank you. 00:21:05.585 --> 00:21:07.585 So the first I wanted to preface this presentation, 00:21:09.305 --> 00:21:11.305 I kind of conveying the the same comments 00:21:11.825 --> 00:21:13.945 that the executive director, Mr. Kris Elias, would provide for this. 00:21:15.665 --> 00:21:17.665 The purpose of this item tonight is informational only. 00:21:18.305 --> 00:21:20.825 This is a opportunity for the council to receive a presentation 00:21:22.105 --> 00:21:24.105 on the infrastructure financing plan 00:21:24.345 --> 00:21:26.345 that has been prepared as a draft document by the 00:21:28.250 --> 00:21:29.785 the most l tract enhanced infrastructure, public financing authority. 00:21:32.305 --> 00:21:34.305 And that one of the main points I want to convey tonight 00:21:36.650 --> 00:21:38.985 is that this the formation of this district does not impose any new taxes on residents 00:21:41.666 --> 00:21:43.666 within within its boundaries. 00:21:44.866 --> 00:21:46.866 And so I just with that, I'd lik 00:21:49.986 --> 00:21:52.786 of have it and got it right here. Excellent. Thank you. 00:21:53.226 --> 00:21:55.226 So this is an informational item. 00:21:55.746 --> 00:21:57.746 We came before the Council previously 00:21:58.386 --> 00:22:01.260 to request that they adopt resolution of intention to form this district. 00:22:02.746 --> 00:22:05.746 The the district is is helping finance a 200 year flood control project. 00:22:07.786 --> 00:22:10.746 The council supported that. And when we we went through that presentation, 00:22:11.986 --> 00:22:13.986 we informed the council that this there be standing up 00:22:14.306 --> 00:22:16.306 and helping to stand up a new entity, 00:22:16.346 --> 00:22:18.346 the IFC Public Financing Authority, 00:22:19.226 --> 00:22:21.226 and that authority was tasked with preparation of a plan 00:22:22.826 --> 00:22:24.826 to a governing document that would identify how the 00:22:26.906 --> 00:22:28.906 the district would be funded and as part of the outreach 00:22:31.187 --> 00:22:32.547 in the part of the formation process, we would go back to each of the 00:22:34.747 --> 00:22:37.627 participating entities, which include the cities of Lathrop, Stockton, and Manteca, 00:22:40.107 --> 00:22:42.747 as well as San Joaquin County, and provide them with an overview 00:22:43.507 --> 00:22:45.507 of the infrastructure financing plan once it had been prepared. 00:22:46.267 --> 00:22:48.347 That's the purpose of this informational item tonight to to offer the Council 00:22:51.507 --> 00:22:53.627 an opportunity to provide comment on the draft plan 00:22:53.787 --> 00:22:55.787 for the community to provide a comment on the draft plan. 00:22:57.670 --> 00:22:59.670 And and then we would then continue with the formation 00:22:59.947 --> 00:23:01.947 process after considering any comments and, and, 00:23:03.747 --> 00:23:05.747 and input onto the plan. 00:23:06.307 --> 00:23:08.307 So again, that's the purpose of the presentation the, 00:23:09.507 --> 00:23:12.347 the infrastructure financing plan. I'll get into a little bit more detail 00:23:13.270 --> 00:23:15.547 on that on the next slide. The statute is very clear on what the content of that plan 00:23:18.187 --> 00:23:20.907 needs to be. You know, it includes these items listed here. 00:23:22.108 --> 00:23:24.668 This is straight out of the code section and this is how the document is structured. 00:23:25.788 --> 00:23:28.348 It's a large document. A lot of it has a lot of financial analyzes, 00:23:30.868 --> 00:23:33.228 which Jamie Gomez, who's here with me tonight, is a principal 00:23:33.988 --> 00:23:36.948 with economic and planning systems. He's a sub consultant to 00:23:37.868 --> 00:23:39.868 to my firm and supporting the preparation of the plan. 00:23:41.428 --> 00:23:43.428 They're the principal authors of it. 00:23:43.468 --> 00:23:45.468 A lot of that is a lot of the financial analyzes 00:23:46.228 --> 00:23:48.228 go into analyzing the fiscal impacts 00:23:49.108 --> 00:23:52.280 to the participating agencies. And so that's a good bulk of the document. 00:23:52.988 --> 00:23:54.988 The rest is a lot of partial numbers 00:23:55.908 --> 00:23:57.908 and a lot of maps and figures and diagrams. 00:23:59.108 --> 00:24:01.108 But but we'll provide a high level overview 00:24:01.828 --> 00:24:03.828 of that document for this during this presentation tonight. 00:24:07.268 --> 00:24:09.268 So that the boundary of the proposed 00:24:09.388 --> 00:24:12.229 financing district is shown here. It covers, as I mentioned, the cities of 00:24:13.349 --> 00:24:15.349 of Lathrop, Manteca, Stockton and the county, 00:24:16.469 --> 00:24:18.469 the blue part of that boundary at the top is the current 00:24:20.789 --> 00:24:23.349 city boundaries of the city of Stockton. And so this this proposed district intersects 00:24:25.349 --> 00:24:27.549 a primarily western ranch and some of the French camp area of the county 00:24:30.469 --> 00:24:33.290 and the city. The boundary of this district is supposed to be consistent 00:24:35.309 --> 00:24:37.669 with the areas that would benefit from 200 year flood protection in the model 00:24:40.549 --> 00:24:42.189 tract area. That's that area south of the southwest 00:24:44.669 --> 00:24:46.669 and including western ranch and south bounded by the San 00:24:49.109 --> 00:24:51.109 Joaquin River and 00:24:52.469 --> 00:24:55.269 the southern portion of the southwest portion of Manteca 00:24:57.509 --> 00:24:59.589 so again, the the funding from this district would come from 00:25:02.830 --> 00:25:05.150 property taxes paid within within this boundary area. 00:25:08.700 --> 00:25:10.700 The the goal of the district is to help 00:25:11.300 --> 00:25:13.300 finance these costs for flood for 200 year flood protection. 00:25:15.310 --> 00:25:17.310 What's shown here is you know, we've been working on this plan 00:25:18.700 --> 00:25:20.390 for several years, which shown here are the original costs of the program in 20, 15 00:25:23.510 --> 00:25:25.750 and then in 20, 21 we did an update to the plan to take into consideration 00:25:28.110 --> 00:25:30.110 climate adaptation, the policy that was adopted by JFK 00:25:31.590 --> 00:25:33.590 to in order to make the project more robust and plan 00:25:34.630 --> 00:25:36.630 for increased flows on the San Joaquin River 00:25:39.390 --> 00:25:42.700 as a result of climate change. The total cost of the project is as large as 230,000,020, $21 00:25:47.110 --> 00:25:49.110 as we escalate those costs over time, 00:25:50.151 --> 00:25:52.351 the nominal dollars, if we were to add up 00:25:52.351 --> 00:25:54.351 the escalated cost over time would be $270 million 00:25:56.191 --> 00:25:58.191 so this is a large project 00:25:58.311 --> 00:26:00.311 intended to provide a high level of flood protection 00:26:01.111 --> 00:26:03.111 for the South County portion shown in the previous map. 00:26:07.431 --> 00:26:10.310 The funding sources. This is one component of multiple funding sources for the project. 00:26:12.631 --> 00:26:15.231 The funding sources are listed here. This is showing how we're going to 00:26:15.551 --> 00:26:18.111 how we plan to currently generate the funding needed for the project. 00:26:19.951 --> 00:26:21.951 So we currently have a regional development impact 00:26:22.871 --> 00:26:25.710 fee in place. The Council has supported that 00:26:25.471 --> 00:26:27.471 by by agreeing to collect that on behalf of SAG-AFTRA. 00:26:29.271 --> 00:26:31.271 We will plan to update that fee here soon. 00:26:33.191 --> 00:26:35.191 And there's also a proposed assessment district 00:26:35.711 --> 00:26:37.711 which we're still currently evaluating. 00:26:38.391 --> 00:26:40.391 There's this proposed ESD, this tax increment 00:26:41.432 --> 00:26:43.632 financing district. And Jamie, we'll talk more about how that that district works. 00:26:46.712 --> 00:26:48.712 And then there's an existing assessment already in place 00:26:50.272 --> 00:26:52.272 that we expect that the completion of the project 00:26:52.632 --> 00:26:54.632 to have a little bit of funding available 00:26:55.320 --> 00:26:57.320 to help support the implementation of 200 year flood protection. 00:26:58.832 --> 00:27:00.832 Reclamation District 17 is currently constructing 00:27:01.512 --> 00:27:03.872 a 100 year project. This project's needed in order to meet 00:27:04.712 --> 00:27:06.712 the state's requirements of 200 year flood protection. 00:27:07.592 --> 00:27:09.592 And then through the through the proposed assessment 00:27:10.112 --> 00:27:12.472 and the AfD, the expectation is that we would issue 00:27:12.952 --> 00:27:14.952 debt secured by these revenues, and that's how the bulk of the 00:27:17.320 --> 00:27:19.320 project is funded. 00:27:19.592 --> 00:27:21.592 So I'll turn the presentation over to Jamie now 00:27:22.872 --> 00:27:24.872 so he can kind of go through the infrastructure financing plan, 00:27:26.512 --> 00:27:28.512 how tax increment financing works and what the 00:27:30.633 --> 00:27:32.633 what the approaches with this unique financing mechanism. 00:27:35.913 --> 00:27:38.193 Thank you, sir. Good afternoon, Mr. 00:27:38.193 --> 00:27:40.193 Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of council. 00:27:41.113 --> 00:27:43.113 Again, Jamie Gomes with Economic and Planning Systems 00:27:44.913 --> 00:27:46.913 Again, the purpose of today really is informational. 00:27:47.513 --> 00:27:49.793 So as I walk through this, I'm going 00:27:49.793 --> 00:27:51.793 to try to provide a level of detail we haven't really covered before. 00:27:54.113 --> 00:27:56.113 At the same time, I invite questions so that as we 00:27:56.873 --> 00:27:58.873 go along, if you have questions, feel free to interrupt 00:27:59.730 --> 00:28:01.730 and we can we can handle it that way. 00:28:01.433 --> 00:28:03.433 And of course, happy to answer questions at the end. 00:28:06.153 --> 00:28:09.113 As Seth mentioned, you know, there's a lot of acronyms associated with this. 00:28:09.313 --> 00:28:10.753 But I think the most important thing is we're talking about an IFB 00:28:13.473 --> 00:28:15.473 which is a new financing mechanism, 00:28:16.113 --> 00:28:18.113 and it's contingent upon tax increment. 00:28:19.113 --> 00:28:21.113 And tax increment is not a new tax. 00:28:21.914 --> 00:28:23.914 Rather, it is just a portion 00:28:24.474 --> 00:28:26.474 of the incremental tax of new assessed value. 00:28:27.874 --> 00:28:29.874 So that's the first thing I want to emphasize. 00:28:30.740 --> 00:28:32.740 And the other acronym you'll hear a lot tonight is 00:28:32.674 --> 00:28:34.674 IFP are the infrastructure financing plan. 00:28:36.340 --> 00:28:38.594 And that's the document that Seth to which Seth referred, and he's holding it there. 00:28:39.594 --> 00:28:41.594 It's it's quite voluminous 00:28:41.754 --> 00:28:43.754 and that infrastructure financing plan is required 00:28:44.514 --> 00:28:46.514 by state law with every e-f deformation. 00:28:47.834 --> 00:28:50.594 And again, our to our purpose tonight is to walk through the key elements of that document 00:28:52.834 --> 00:28:54.834 to answer any questions in a workshop format. 00:28:55.874 --> 00:28:57.554 And I'll talk at the end of the discussion tonight about the next steps 00:28:59.554 --> 00:29:01.554 because we will be coming back before your governing body 00:29:02.794 --> 00:29:04.794 in the future to seek approval of this document 00:29:06.354 --> 00:29:08.354 before the Public Financing Authority takes action on it. 00:29:11.555 --> 00:29:12.795 So the important thing to to recall regarding tax increment 00:29:15.195 --> 00:29:17.195 financing is that it does take time to accumulate. 00:29:18.635 --> 00:29:20.995 So this is assessment. Seth mentioned 00:29:20.995 --> 00:29:22.995 one of many funding mechanisms that will be used. 00:29:24.155 --> 00:29:26.155 And because tax increment is contingent upon assessed 00:29:27.515 --> 00:29:29.515 value growth, assessed value growth will occur over time. 00:29:31.235 --> 00:29:33.235 And so what we're conveying with this slide is twofold. 00:29:33.995 --> 00:29:35.995 One, the tax increment does take time to accumulate. 00:29:37.595 --> 00:29:40.155 And two, as Seth mentioned, we will be using the tax increment money 00:29:42.555 --> 00:29:44.555 through the Public Financing Authority in two ways. 00:29:45.755 --> 00:29:47.755 One, as it comes in on a pay as you go basis 00:29:48.795 --> 00:29:50.795 and then in the future when debt is issued, 00:29:52.750 --> 00:29:54.750 the tax increment will be a portion 00:29:54.275 --> 00:29:56.275 of the repayment source for that debt 00:29:59.675 --> 00:30:01.836 so a little bit of detail on what went into our tax increment revenue forecast 00:30:06.676 --> 00:30:08.676 we started with 00:30:08.916 --> 00:30:10.916 forecasts of the total amount of growth 00:30:11.316 --> 00:30:13.516 that might be anticipated within each of the jurisdictions boundaries. 00:30:14.836 --> 00:30:16.836 So we work directly with staff in the community 00:30:17.760 --> 00:30:19.760 development department, public works, et cetera, 00:30:20.360 --> 00:30:22.360 to understand the capacity of new development 00:30:23.196 --> 00:30:25.196 and then using the estimated assessed value 00:30:26.476 --> 00:30:28.396 of that new development. That's what's helping to derive our assessed value forecast. 00:30:31.196 --> 00:30:33.196 Assessed value growth is comprised of two elements. 00:30:34.360 --> 00:30:36.360 It's a assessed value increase from new development, 00:30:37.316 --> 00:30:39.316 but also as existing development turns over and a property 00:30:41.116 --> 00:30:43.116 is sold and changes hands, that triggers a reassessment. 00:30:44.916 --> 00:30:46.916 And if it's sold for more money than the original base value, 00:30:48.356 --> 00:30:50.356 that's incremental assessed value 00:30:52.837 --> 00:30:54.837 so by taking the assessed value growth, 00:30:54.997 --> 00:30:56.997 then we also consider the city's portion 00:30:58.117 --> 00:31:00.117 of the out of the form tax that it receives. 00:31:01.157 --> 00:31:03.157 And then a portion of that city portion would go into the 50 00:31:08.370 --> 00:31:10.370 so Seth mentioned, we looked at the development forecast 00:31:10.797 --> 00:31:12.797 for every jurisdiction, including the city of Stockton 00:31:14.770 --> 00:31:16.770 within the area that's in the EAFE boundaries. 00:31:17.317 --> 00:31:19.317 There are about 1100 units potentially planned or plan 00:31:21.997 --> 00:31:24.997 that could be potentially developed. And that excuse me 00:31:27.877 --> 00:31:29.357 no, sorry. Within the city of Stockton, 1100 are about 1100. 00:31:31.797 --> 00:31:33.797 Yeah. 00:31:34.477 --> 00:31:36.477 And then within for nonresidential it's 00:31:36.997 --> 00:31:38.997 about 7.2 million square feet of nonresidential. 00:31:40.118 --> 00:31:42.118 So most of the growth that's it's within the cities 00:31:43.438 --> 00:31:44.878 that could be annexed to the city, it's primarily nonresidential. 00:31:47.918 --> 00:31:49.918 You can see that differs by jurisdiction in Lathrop 00:31:50.638 --> 00:31:52.638 there's quite a bit of residential and nonresidential 00:31:53.358 --> 00:31:55.358 and then the county, you know, similarly it's a combination 00:31:56.278 --> 00:31:58.278 of both residential and nonresidential. 00:31:59.278 --> 00:32:01.278 So as I mentioned, a key element that drives 00:32:02.380 --> 00:32:04.638 the amount of revenue that comes to the city 00:32:04.638 --> 00:32:06.638 of Stockton from new property tax or new assessed value 00:32:07.718 --> 00:32:09.718 is the city's share of the ad valorem. 00:32:10.918 --> 00:32:12.278 So every property owner pays 1% ad valorem tax 00:32:14.518 --> 00:32:16.518 and the city receives a portion of that, 00:32:17.380 --> 00:32:18.998 and the remainder goes to other affected taxing entities, school districts, 00:32:22.118 --> 00:32:24.118 other municipal service providers. 00:32:24.918 --> 00:32:26.918 We looked at every jurisdiction, and for the city of Stockton, 00:32:27.878 --> 00:32:29.878 there's two things to consider, which is new development 00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:34.119 that occurs within the existing city. 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:36.359 The city gets a higher share of the property tax from that growth, 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:40.519 whereas in annexation areas as depicted here, 00:32:41.439 --> 00:32:43.439 the city receives less than half of the property tax. 00:32:44.999 --> 00:32:47.879 And that's a function of tax sharing agreement between the city and the county. 00:32:49.919 --> 00:32:51.919 And so in the annexation areas, the county happens 00:32:53.390 --> 00:32:55.390 to receive a greater share of the 1% out of alarm. 00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:58.759 So on average in the annexation area, the city of Stockton 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.519 receives about 7.2% of that 1% tax. 00:33:05.390 --> 00:33:07.759 In comparison, in the existing city areas, it's about 16.7% on average. 00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.319 So that's a key factor in how much incremental property tax revenue might come 00:33:16.399 --> 00:33:18.399 from the development within each CFD boundary. 00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:27.400 So this isn't intended to depict scale, 00:33:27.840 --> 00:33:29.840 but I do want to emphasize that the suggest to staff 00:33:31.560 --> 00:33:33.560 the affected taxing entity staffs of the city 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:36.480 of Stockton, Lathrop, Manteca and San Joaquin County, 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:39.960 as well as the consulting team of NWA 00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:42.680 and Epps and our legal consultant 00:33:44.120 --> 00:33:46.120 spent about two years working to various methodologies 00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:49.960 on how to derive the relative contributions by each agency. 00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:56.160 And what we're depicting here is that there's a number of different metrics you can look at to evaluate 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.000 how much each agency may contribute. 00:34:01.520 --> 00:34:03.520 One way is looking just strictly at assessed value growth, 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.000 and you could rather measure the relative assessed value 00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:09.760 growth in Lathrop as compared to Manteca or Stockton. 00:34:11.321 --> 00:34:13.321 We could look simply at just property tax revenue increase, 00:34:15.161 --> 00:34:17.161 or we could instead look at the net fiscal impact. 00:34:18.441 --> 00:34:20.441 And I'll talk about our fiscal impact analysis later. 00:34:21.681 --> 00:34:23.681 The point is that we we examined a variety 00:34:24.201 --> 00:34:26.201 of different methods and during that two year period, 00:34:27.841 --> 00:34:29.841 this infrastructure financing plan draft 00:34:30.601 --> 00:34:32.601 that you have in front of you depicts what staff recommended 00:34:34.561 --> 00:34:36.561 out of all of those discussions and considerations. 00:34:38.410 --> 00:34:40.601 So I do want to reflect the amount of work that your staff put in to help inform 00:34:43.241 --> 00:34:45.241 what the financing plan is currently reflecting 00:34:49.681 --> 00:34:51.681 so this is a lot more detail on 00:34:52.401 --> 00:34:54.401 what is reflected in the infrastructure financing plan. 00:34:56.410 --> 00:34:58.410 Again, this is based on staff recommendation, 00:34:58.921 --> 00:35:00.921 and this chart is depicting several things. 00:35:01.962 --> 00:35:03.962 The top half is the maximum amount of tax increment 00:35:06.882 --> 00:35:08.882 that each agency would pledged to the EFC. 00:35:11.420 --> 00:35:13.420 So the maximum for every jurisdiction is 20%. 00:35:15.442 --> 00:35:17.442 So if every new dollar generated, the city receives 00:35:17.922 --> 00:35:20.162 about 7% of that. We're talking about one 00:35:20.162 --> 00:35:22.162 fifth would go into the FDR at its maximum. 00:35:24.802 --> 00:35:26.802 The bottom half of the chart is depicting what we call 00:35:27.642 --> 00:35:29.642 the variable rate scenario over time as assessed value grows, 00:35:33.200 --> 00:35:35.200 the percentage of tax increment 00:35:35.420 --> 00:35:37.420 that's needed for the EBIT should decrease. 00:35:38.420 --> 00:35:40.420 So the variable amount is the lower of you 00:35:41.402 --> 00:35:43.402 know, it's beneath the maximum, if you will. 00:35:44.442 --> 00:35:45.802 And then lastly, the first column on the left is entitled Initial Years, 00:35:49.642 --> 00:35:51.642 and that's the period between the EFP formation 00:35:52.963 --> 00:35:54.963 and when the project is completed during that period, 00:35:56.963 --> 00:35:59.683 we have what we call basically an initial period allocation. 00:36:02.283 --> 00:36:04.283 And if you notice the city Stockton amount 00:36:04.683 --> 00:36:06.683 is 1% during that period, whereas 00:36:08.403 --> 00:36:10.403 the City of Lathrop Romantic or at five and 10% respectively. 00:36:12.763 --> 00:36:14.763 But in this entire interim period, the municipalities 00:36:17.883 --> 00:36:19.883 are at a lower rate because this the county of San Joaquin is 00:36:23.323 --> 00:36:25.430 as depicted in the financing plan, is contributing a higher amount. 00:36:27.443 --> 00:36:29.443 So there's a trade off in the initial period with the county 00:36:30.243 --> 00:36:32.243 as proposed in the plan 00:36:32.283 --> 00:36:35.163 is going to be contributing a higher amount. So the cities can each respectiv 00:36:39.723 --> 00:36:41.724 so let me pause there because was a lot of information on this slide. 00:36:42.404 --> 00:36:44.404 Are there any questions about what I just said. 00:36:48.604 --> 00:36:50.404 You can proceed. Thank you. Good. Thank you. 00:36:52.324 --> 00:36:54.324 For the next series of slides. 00:36:56.164 --> 00:36:58.564 Look at each agency. So let me start with the county. 00:37:00.684 --> 00:37:02.684 There's two things going on in each slide. 00:37:02.764 --> 00:37:05.164 The blue bars that are on the scale to the right of this chart 00:37:07.924 --> 00:37:09.924 are tax increment revenue in millions of dollars 00:37:12.244 --> 00:37:14.244 the light blue is the maximum amount, 00:37:14.804 --> 00:37:16.804 and then the dark blue is the 00:37:17.884 --> 00:37:19.884 the alternative for the variable amount. 00:37:21.404 --> 00:37:23.404 So over time, as new development occurs 00:37:24.484 --> 00:37:26.484 and this existing development turns over, we we recognize 00:37:28.564 --> 00:37:30.564 excess values will go up and tax increment revenues will go up. 00:37:33.850 --> 00:37:35.850 What's depicted with the bar 00:37:35.285 --> 00:37:37.285 which is anchored to the left axis, that's the percent. 00:37:40.405 --> 00:37:42.405 That's the percentage of tax increment going into the EAFE. 00:37:44.525 --> 00:37:46.525 That should go down over time. 00:37:46.685 --> 00:37:48.405 So as I mentioned during the initial period, we have the county at the 47% 00:37:51.205 --> 00:37:53.205 then it drops to a maximum of 20 and the lower 00:37:54.965 --> 00:37:56.965 goldenrod bar is depicting the variable rate scenario. 00:37:58.850 --> 00:38:00.850 So again it goes up over time. 00:38:00.245 --> 00:38:02.245 The EAFE percentage goes down 00:38:04.965 --> 00:38:06.965 this is what it looks like for the city of Stockton. 00:38:07.125 --> 00:38:09.125 It's the inverse in that out of the gate 00:38:10.325 --> 00:38:12.325 for the initial period, the city is only contributing 1% 00:38:14.165 --> 00:38:16.165 of its portion of of property tax 00:38:17.885 --> 00:38:19.885 and then it will be committed to no more than a maximum of 20 00:38:22.646 --> 00:38:25.166 if that's the action that your body, that your governing board takes in the future 00:38:26.446 --> 00:38:28.446 and then the variable rate is beneath up 00:38:30.646 --> 00:38:32.366 and then over time. We have a question that at this point Councilmember Joe Breck. 00:38:34.366 --> 00:38:35.806 Thank you and just looking at these models is trying to figure out 00:38:37.366 --> 00:38:39.526 the where recessions are so typically when we do our long term 00:38:40.606 --> 00:38:42.606 financial planning we'll see ebbs and flows of the finances. 00:38:44.406 --> 00:38:46.406 But when I see this I always hear increases 00:38:46.806 --> 00:38:48.806 throughout the 40 year 00:38:49.860 --> 00:38:51.860 plan of this this tax. 00:38:51.446 --> 00:38:53.446 Right, right. So that's a great question. 00:38:53.646 --> 00:38:55.646 There are kind of two things that factor into that. 00:38:56.166 --> 00:38:58.166 One is we're using a development absorption 00:38:59.460 --> 00:39:01.646 scenario provided by staff. So the pace of development, that's the new development 00:39:03.646 --> 00:39:05.646 I was referencing was informed by the staff tax projections. 00:39:08.406 --> 00:39:10.406 And then in terms of the 00:39:10.647 --> 00:39:12.287 and we're using relatively conservative values in terms of new home 00:39:14.407 --> 00:39:16.967 sales prices, certainly they've gone up 00:39:17.367 --> 00:39:19.367 considerably over the last couple of years. 00:39:19.807 --> 00:39:21.967 But our infrastructure financing plan doesn't reflect that ramp up. 00:39:23.127 --> 00:39:25.127 So there's some conservatism built in there. 00:39:26.870 --> 00:39:28.870 And then lastly, when we factor 00:39:29.527 --> 00:39:31.527 in how much existing development would turn over 00:39:33.700 --> 00:39:35.407 and the average rate of assessed value growth, we used a low factor of 3%. 00:39:38.327 --> 00:39:40.327 So that inherently takes account of the boom and bust cycle. 00:39:42.700 --> 00:39:44.700 So if you look over a 20 or 30 year period, asset values 00:39:45.607 --> 00:39:47.607 do grow at an average annual rate of at least 3%. 00:39:48.847 --> 00:39:50.847 So you kind of just plug your model projected models, 00:39:53.407 --> 00:39:55.407 kind of including a recession within it, right? 00:39:56.487 --> 00:39:57.767 Right. It's implicit within our low average annual 00:39:59.447 --> 00:40:01.447 increase assumption. Thank you. Sure. 00:40:02.728 --> 00:40:05.448 City Manager. If you could go to the previous slide, 00:40:07.888 --> 00:40:09.888 what exactly was this slide telling us? 00:40:11.568 --> 00:40:13.568 So the site is telling us two things. 00:40:14.488 --> 00:40:16.488 It's telling us first, that it will take time for 00:40:17.768 --> 00:40:19.768 new assessed value to accumulate within the boundary. 00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:23.800 And this is specifically for the city. 00:40:23.848 --> 00:40:25.848 And then as that assessed value goes up over time, 00:40:27.688 --> 00:40:29.688 a lesser amount of it will be redirected into the ESD 00:40:33.448 --> 00:40:35.448 because the the the financing plan 00:40:37.648 --> 00:40:39.648 assumes a fixed amount of 00:40:41.128 --> 00:40:43.128 ESD revenues to repay debt service. 00:40:44.888 --> 00:40:47.480 But over time. Yes sir. 00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:50.848 I guess I'm just trying to get a better understanding if you apply the maximum 00:40:53.569 --> 00:40:55.569 tax rate scenario, is that saying that 00:40:58.489 --> 00:41:00.489 that that approach, that scenario would basically 00:41:01.809 --> 00:41:03.809 consume all of the tax increment that would be realized 00:41:05.849 --> 00:41:07.849 for a long period of time? 00:41:08.569 --> 00:41:11.569 No, actually the maximum amount is only consuming one fifth 00:41:14.289 --> 00:41:16.289 of the incremental property tax revenue from the area. 00:41:18.449 --> 00:41:20.809 That's the most. The other four fifths is retained 00:41:22.489 --> 00:41:24.489 by the city and goes into the city's general fund. 00:41:26.900 --> 00:41:28.900 And what what the slide is depicting is that we 00:41:28.489 --> 00:41:31.890 don't even think that one fifth is going to be required over this long duration. 00:41:32.929 --> 00:41:34.929 We actually think that one fifth is going to drop to an eighth 00:41:35.929 --> 00:41:37.929 or a 10th that's what we're attempting to convey 00:41:39.490 --> 00:41:41.490 here. OK, 00:41:46.650 --> 00:41:48.650 so another very important element, and I think this is 00:41:49.290 --> 00:41:51.730 hopefully on point to to some of these questions, 00:41:51.930 --> 00:41:54.370 an important element of the financing plan is to look at the fiscal impacts. 00:41:57.100 --> 00:41:59.100 And by that we're measuring 00:42:00.810 --> 00:42:02.810 how new development within the area will be impacted 00:42:05.170 --> 00:42:07.170 and how it affects the city from a revenue and expenditure 00:42:08.170 --> 00:42:10.170 standpoint, accounting for the DFT. 00:42:13.130 --> 00:42:15.170 So we looked at the the fiscal impacts for all of the cities and the county. 00:42:17.970 --> 00:42:19.970 We're using the city's fiscal year 20, 21 budget. 00:42:22.100 --> 00:42:24.650 We spent a considerable amount of time with the staffs of each of the respected taxing entities, 00:42:27.210 --> 00:42:29.210 vetting our methodology to make sure that 00:42:29.690 --> 00:42:31.690 your budgeting staff agreed with the approach that we took. 00:42:33.411 --> 00:42:35.910 We believe we're relatively conservative on the revenue estimating side 00:42:37.851 --> 00:42:39.851 in a sense that we're not using high average 00:42:41.110 --> 00:42:43.110 assessed values for new growth. 00:42:43.510 --> 00:42:45.510 We are conservatively reflecting 00:42:45.531 --> 00:42:47.531 low property tax increments received by the city 00:42:48.691 --> 00:42:51.510 and then on the expenditure side, we believe we're being conservative 00:42:51.371 --> 00:42:53.371 in that we've assumed a one to one relationship 00:42:55.331 --> 00:42:57.331 between cost to serve new development as a city's 00:42:58.171 --> 00:43:00.171 cost of services in development. 00:43:00.331 --> 00:43:02.331 And so it doesn't factor into account economies of scale 00:43:02.931 --> 00:43:05.731 over time. So in effect, we're trying to underestimate revenues 00:43:07.171 --> 00:43:09.171 and overestimate expenditures and we're comparing those two 00:43:10.171 --> 00:43:12.171 to determine the net fiscal impact of new development 00:43:13.731 --> 00:43:15.731 within the boundary 00:43:17.611 --> 00:43:19.611 so this depicts the approach methodologically. 00:43:21.520 --> 00:43:23.972 On the left hand side, our inputs are the land uses again from staff 00:43:27.120 --> 00:43:29.120 we have the city's existing service levels 00:43:29.972 --> 00:43:31.972 from the departments and from your budget. 00:43:33.520 --> 00:43:35.520 And then we have the actual 20, 21 budget 00:43:36.572 --> 00:43:39.572 the key revenues that we look at or of course a property tax, vehicle license fee, sales tax, 00:43:41.972 --> 00:43:43.972 transient occupancy tax, all the major revenue sources 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:47.920 that go into the city's general fund. 00:43:47.172 --> 00:43:49.172 And then of course all of the public expenditure 00:43:49.212 --> 00:43:51.920 service expenditures that come out of police, fire, public works planning, 00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:56.920 city clerk, city council, et cetera, 00:43:58.332 --> 00:44:00.412 we then look at and compare revenues to expenditures 00:44:02.492 --> 00:44:04.492 and for each of the jurisdictions at the buildout 00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:09.920 the the fiscal impact analysis anticipates 00:44:10.930 --> 00:44:12.930 that annual revenues will exceed the annual expenditures 00:44:13.613 --> 00:44:15.613 even after considering that maximum one fifth 00:44:17.213 --> 00:44:19.213 redirection of property tax into the 50 00:44:22.653 --> 00:44:25.413 specifically for the city. And I apologize, I know this is difficult to read on the screen 00:44:29.413 --> 00:44:31.213 what we have here and this all this detail is in the plan 00:44:33.413 --> 00:44:35.413 from left to right. 00:44:36.493 --> 00:44:39.333 We're looking at the annual fiscal impacts to the city, but on a cumulative basis. 00:44:42.293 --> 00:44:44.293 So first it's 20, 25 00:44:44.693 --> 00:44:46.693 and then it's cumulatively through 2030 00:44:47.733 --> 00:44:49.733 and then through 2035 00:44:50.293 --> 00:44:52.293 from top to bottom. 00:44:52.333 --> 00:44:54.333 We're looking at first the net fiscal impacts, 00:44:55.893 --> 00:44:57.893 assuming no IFP is formed in the middle 00:45:00.214 --> 00:45:02.214 we have the net fiscal impact after accounting for a maximum 00:45:04.654 --> 00:45:06.654 20% contribution into the 50 than lastly at the bottom, 00:45:09.334 --> 00:45:11.334 that's the net fiscal impact assuming the variable rate. 00:45:12.654 --> 00:45:14.654 So the middle row middle set of rows 00:45:15.494 --> 00:45:17.494 is the worst case scenario from a commitment standpoint. 00:45:20.614 --> 00:45:22.614 And so at the end 00:45:23.734 --> 00:45:25.734 in build out again assuming the 1100 or so dwelling 00:45:27.540 --> 00:45:29.414 units are constructed in the 7 million square feet 00:45:29.614 --> 00:45:31.614 of nonresidential development occurs, 00:45:33.174 --> 00:45:35.174 the annual revenues to the city are about 11.2 million city 00:45:37.814 --> 00:45:39.814 expenditures to serve that new growth is about 6.6 million. 00:45:41.854 --> 00:45:43.854 The EIA contributions about 370 380,000. 00:45:46.540 --> 00:45:48.540 So the annual net fiscal impact to the city is positive 00:45:49.174 --> 00:45:51.174 by about 3.9 million. 00:45:52.415 --> 00:45:54.415 Now this is of course looking out of a very long time horizon, 00:45:56.175 --> 00:45:58.175 but that, you know, we did depicted in a five 00:45:58.615 --> 00:46:00.615 in five and ten year increments over time 00:46:03.815 --> 00:46:05.895 I do want to point out and this is I mean it's important to 00:46:07.335 --> 00:46:09.335 to examine this as a required element of the financing plan. 00:46:11.455 --> 00:46:13.455 It's not a required element that there be a positive 00:46:14.950 --> 00:46:16.950 fiscal impact for any HFT. 00:46:17.135 --> 00:46:19.135 The law doesn't say you have to have a positive fiscal impact. 00:46:20.335 --> 00:46:22.335 It's certainly desirable but it doesn't necessarily 00:46:23.455 --> 00:46:25.455 compel a jurisdiction to make that finding. 00:46:26.575 --> 00:46:28.575 So I just wanted to point that out 00:46:29.375 --> 00:46:32.550 in terms of next steps. You know, as I mentioned tonight, 00:46:33.135 --> 00:46:35.135 the draft infrastructure financing plan has been provided 00:46:35.775 --> 00:46:37.775 to all the participating affected taxing entities. 00:46:39.375 --> 00:46:41.375 It's available for all other taxing entities 00:46:42.216 --> 00:46:44.776 that are within the boundary. It's available for the public to review. 00:46:46.256 --> 00:46:48.456 And so we're in the data gathering and soliciting comments phase. 00:46:50.536 --> 00:46:53.216 So we're here tonight in a workshop format to gather your comments and input. 00:46:54.856 --> 00:46:56.856 We will be making revisions to the draft finance 00:46:57.376 --> 00:46:59.376 plan as necessary over time. 00:47:00.776 --> 00:47:02.776 And what our sequence of meetings looks like over time 00:47:04.376 --> 00:47:06.376 is a combination of meetings with the Public 00:47:06.456 --> 00:47:09.296 Financing Authority. There are three public hearings required to form the ESD. 00:47:12.696 --> 00:47:14.696 Our next public hearing is on May 26th. 00:47:15.816 --> 00:47:17.816 We are in the midst in the middle of this chart, 00:47:17.936 --> 00:47:19.936 in the midst of the workshops with the City of Lathrop 00:47:20.656 --> 00:47:22.656 being last night, City of Manteca was about a week ago. 00:47:24.976 --> 00:47:26.896 And then the County of San Joaquin is coming up here shortly, 00:47:28.936 --> 00:47:30.936 week or two 00:47:31.970 --> 00:47:33.970 and then lastly, one more time, 00:47:34.337 --> 00:47:36.337 we're going to make the rounds back to each jurisdiction. 00:47:37.977 --> 00:47:39.977 So after we've received comments we've made edits 00:47:40.577 --> 00:47:43.417 to the infrastructure financing plan, we will come back in front of your governing body 00:47:45.377 --> 00:47:47.377 for seeking approval of the document 00:47:47.777 --> 00:47:50.297 before it then goes to the Public Financing Authority for their final action. 00:47:52.737 --> 00:47:54.497 We have a question. Councilmember Canada. 00:47:54.777 --> 00:47:57.217 Can you go back to the estimated annual general fund fiscal impacts? 00:47:58.537 --> 00:48:00.537 So you're you're projecting losses right from the get go. 00:48:01.857 --> 00:48:03.857 And every model. 00:48:04.217 --> 00:48:06.217 In this is for the city of Stockton specifically. 00:48:08.970 --> 00:48:10.970 So I mean, until the year 00:48:11.617 --> 00:48:13.617 20, 40 00:48:14.857 --> 00:48:16.417 yeah. And that's that this is at the maximum. 00:48:17.497 --> 00:48:19.497 So you're saying that the 20% maximum rate. Yes. 00:48:20.778 --> 00:48:22.698 This is the projections that we're going to be paying out of the general fund 00:48:24.180 --> 00:48:25.658 to do this. So it won't be a positive until 00:48:27.498 --> 00:48:29.498 in 2040. 00:48:29.578 --> 00:48:31.578 Yeah. Yes. 00:48:31.938 --> 00:48:33.458 And the. Meeting years we're going to lose money joining this fund to. 00:48:37.338 --> 00:48:40.178 Have the. Right to pay money for 00:48:41.898 --> 00:48:43.898 and then the tax 00:48:44.980 --> 00:48:46.980 the tax rate of that area will start to be positive. 00:48:47.980 --> 00:48:49.980 Right. That is correct. General fund expenditure. 00:48:50.338 --> 00:48:52.338 So this is detecting. Yes that's correct. 00:48:53.180 --> 00:48:55.180 This is depicting and investing some of the incremental tax 00:48:57.580 --> 00:48:59.580 revenues into flood protection 00:49:00.258 --> 00:49:02.258 to help facilitate new growth occurring within the boundary 00:49:04.580 --> 00:49:06.580 not just within the city but elsewhere. 00:49:06.458 --> 00:49:08.458 And the that is a key reason this this finding 00:49:09.938 --> 00:49:11.938 and the results you see here are a key reason why 00:49:13.499 --> 00:49:15.499 if you look at the bottom of this slide 00:49:16.899 --> 00:49:18.659 out of the gate, we actually have the city only participating at a 1% level, 00:49:22.190 --> 00:49:24.190 whereas the city of Manteca is at five city of later, 00:49:24.939 --> 00:49:26.939 it's at ten and Smoking County is at 47%. 00:49:28.379 --> 00:49:29.859 So they're they're contributing about half of the tax increment as. 00:49:31.859 --> 00:49:33.859 And so then those losses are annually over 00:49:34.590 --> 00:49:36.590 five years so that from 20, 25 to 20, 30 is 1.6 00:49:38.259 --> 00:49:40.259 or is that $1.6 million loss averaged over five. 00:49:41.379 --> 00:49:43.379 Years. This is an annual number you are correct. 00:49:45.819 --> 00:49:47.819 Yeah. 00:49:47.859 --> 00:49:49.859 And again I think I want to just characterize it, 00:49:50.990 --> 00:49:52.990 these are very conservative estimates. 00:49:52.299 --> 00:49:54.379 We tried to underestimate it revenues and overestimate expenditures. 00:49:55.739 --> 00:49:57.739 But you are you are absolutely correct. 00:49:57.859 --> 00:49:59.859 In the early years we are depicting an investment 00:50:02.580 --> 00:50:04.620 into the flood control. And when does the benefit 00:50:05.140 --> 00:50:07.140 outweigh the risk for us as a city year? 00:50:08.460 --> 00:50:10.540 I mean, so the thing is, is we can't build on this without the improvements correct? 00:50:13.600 --> 00:50:15.600 Correct. Correct. Without it's it's a classic. 00:50:15.620 --> 00:50:18.380 But for argument but for the investment in the flood control improvements, 00:50:21.140 --> 00:50:23.140 we would not have the new growth or or conversely, 00:50:24.980 --> 00:50:26.620 if the flood control improvements are not completed, it's quite possible 00:50:29.460 --> 00:50:31.460 that values would decline in the area 00:50:32.260 --> 00:50:34.260 in fact, when we started this work about three years ago, 00:50:35.220 --> 00:50:38.140 we did examine the scenario that said, well, what if adequate progress 00:50:39.300 --> 00:50:41.380 and what if the flood control improvements were never completed? 00:50:42.380 --> 00:50:45.600 What might occur? And so we looked at data from the up school business, 00:50:47.820 --> 00:50:49.820 some work that we had done, and it's possible 00:50:51.501 --> 00:50:53.501 because no new development can occur in these areas. 00:50:54.301 --> 00:50:56.301 We could see a degradation in values. 00:50:57.341 --> 00:50:59.341 And so you could have the actual same fiscal impacts. 00:51:00.821 --> 00:51:02.821 But with no new development, just the decrease in assessed 00:51:03.901 --> 00:51:06.261 value of that existing development because no one's willing to invest in the area. 00:51:08.221 --> 00:51:10.221 So I think we were obviously trying to make sure 00:51:10.941 --> 00:51:12.941 that the analysis was well informed and considered 00:51:14.621 --> 00:51:16.621 kind of both outcomes, both potential outcomes. 00:51:18.610 --> 00:51:20.610 And then so in these areas, the city infrastructure 00:51:22.181 --> 00:51:24.181 that costs is figured into getting it out there. 00:51:24.941 --> 00:51:26.941 Or how do I mean, so 00:51:27.421 --> 00:51:30.141 do we have infrastructure out there already or is it going to cost us 00:51:30.141 --> 00:51:32.141 even more on top of this to get water and sewer to this area? 00:51:34.141 --> 00:51:36.141 Yeah, the extension of infrastructure to the area 00:51:37.741 --> 00:51:39.741 would be would need to occur with new development. 00:51:42.302 --> 00:51:44.702 Historically, that's not necessarily borne by the city itself. 00:51:45.342 --> 00:51:47.782 That's usually the new development investing in that infrastructure. 00:51:48.742 --> 00:51:50.422 But you are correct. This we are looking at the operating side, 00:51:51.342 --> 00:51:53.702 not on the capital side. So then how close are we to this area with services? 00:51:56.422 --> 00:51:58.422 I mean, obviously you have to trunk it up somewhere. 00:51:59.862 --> 00:52:02.582 Yes. Any any development in this area would would 00:52:06.182 --> 00:52:08.182 require or or expect 00:52:09.582 --> 00:52:11.582 utility services from from mud. 00:52:12.942 --> 00:52:14.942 And that would just follow, 00:52:15.302 --> 00:52:17.302 you know, the typical current process for development. 00:52:18.302 --> 00:52:20.302 As as he stated 00:52:21.862 --> 00:52:23.862 so the real 00:52:24.102 --> 00:52:26.102 question is, I'm sort of 00:52:26.182 --> 00:52:28.182 I think I understand what you're saying. So 00:52:29.262 --> 00:52:31.262 once this district takes takes effect, 00:52:34.623 --> 00:52:36.623 the city will forego any growth revenue, not the base revenue, 00:52:40.423 --> 00:52:42.423 but the new revenue for how many years. 00:52:44.143 --> 00:52:46.703 So the the. The district 00:52:47.423 --> 00:52:49.423 once debt is issued 00:52:49.663 --> 00:52:51.663 no more than 45 years from when debt is issued. 00:52:52.223 --> 00:52:54.463 Right. So so what's important to understand, not to say that it should be reason 00:52:56.223 --> 00:52:58.223 to not to support and to pursue this, 00:52:58.863 --> 00:53:00.903 I think it's important for you to understand the fiscal implications 00:53:03.663 --> 00:53:05.663 that let's say we're earning $5 today. 00:53:07.983 --> 00:53:10.903 One state issued debt and that $5 grows as a result of just the organic growth 00:53:14.583 --> 00:53:16.583 through the assessment process or new development. 00:53:18.463 --> 00:53:20.463 We won't see any of that because we will be 00:53:22.640 --> 00:53:23.504 sending that over to this entity to pay for debt. 00:53:25.584 --> 00:53:27.584 Is that correct? Yes. 00:53:27.864 --> 00:53:30.544 Yeah. That is correct. Let me let me try to expand on your numerical example. 00:53:33.424 --> 00:53:35.424 You would get $5 today 00:53:35.824 --> 00:53:37.824 and the new assessed value would add a dollar 00:53:38.464 --> 00:53:40.464 $0.20 would go to the EFC and $0.80 would come to the city. 00:53:42.864 --> 00:53:44.864 But we have this negative. 00:53:45.144 --> 00:53:47.144 So in effect, what you're saying is correct, right? 00:53:47.704 --> 00:53:50.384 So the other 80 is going to come to us at some point in the future. Yes. 00:53:51.944 --> 00:53:53.944 And so I'm saying is what does that look like in terms of time? 00:53:55.464 --> 00:53:57.464 And I'm not, I'm not questioning this to say that 00:53:57.584 --> 00:53:59.584 this is not something that should be should not be pursued. 00:54:00.264 --> 00:54:02.264 I think it's just important for you to understand, 00:54:03.184 --> 00:54:05.144 you know, the dynamics and the implications, that's all. 00:54:07.544 --> 00:54:09.584 Yeah. And along along that line, I do want to point out that this 00:54:12.545 --> 00:54:14.545 these deficits in the early years of about 00:54:15.345 --> 00:54:18.145 let's let's say in the 20, 30 time horizon is approximately $1,000,000. 00:54:19.625 --> 00:54:21.625 The city's annual operating budget 00:54:22.185 --> 00:54:24.185 in 2021 was about 270 million or so. 00:54:26.265 --> 00:54:28.265 So I think in relative terms 00:54:28.745 --> 00:54:30.745 the investment of this million dollars annually is less 00:54:32.145 --> 00:54:34.145 than 1% of the city's general fund operating budget. 00:54:36.225 --> 00:54:38.705 So I just want to kind of you know, it's, it's 00:54:38.905 --> 00:54:40.145 nice to put some of these numbers and content in a bigger context. 00:54:42.185 --> 00:54:44.650 Right and that's. In in 45 years worth of that amount not just 00:54:47.585 --> 00:54:50.385 I mean those comes out of the general fund. So you're saying it's revenue that we wouldn't have had 00:54:52.625 --> 00:54:55.650 is the benefit because I mean if you're talking about it's 45 years of commitment 00:54:56.665 --> 00:54:59.305 out of the general fund so I mean. No it's no no it's not. 00:55:00.506 --> 00:55:02.506 So 20 years so you're get us to 2035. 00:55:03.660 --> 00:55:05.660 Yeah. 20, 35. Right, right. 00:55:06.266 --> 00:55:08.266 But so they can. 00:55:08.706 --> 00:55:10.706 And this is these questions are great because this is. 00:55:11.666 --> 00:55:13.946 I behind you. I had another question. 00:55:15.466 --> 00:55:17.106 Cameras, cameras we should save. You. 00:55:19.146 --> 00:55:21.146 Know good evening there in council. 00:55:22.626 --> 00:55:25.626 Kimberly Trammell, Chief Financial Officer. I'm just going to step in and. 00:55:26.946 --> 00:55:29.226 Maybe make things a little. Clearer. Maybe, hopefully make things a little clearer. 00:55:30.826 --> 00:55:33.666 We have gone through this analysis. This has been many years 00:55:33.666 --> 00:55:35.986 in the making that we've been working with the consultants working on this. 00:55:36.826 --> 00:55:38.826 And so key I'm just restating everything 00:55:40.546 --> 00:55:42.626 that's really already been said. And it is important 00:55:42.626 --> 00:55:44.626 that we all understand the full implications. 00:55:45.666 --> 00:55:47.666 The key thing is that this development wouldn't 00:55:49.260 --> 00:55:51.260 necessarily happen if we didn't do the flood 00:55:51.347 --> 00:55:53.707 protection efforts, so there wouldn't be any new development, 00:55:54.547 --> 00:55:56.547 there wouldn't be any additional tax increment if we didn't. 00:55:57.507 --> 00:55:59.507 If we can't build in that area, 00:56:00.947 --> 00:56:02.947 these are areas that are already part of the city limits. 00:56:03.947 --> 00:56:05.947 So we're already getting a portion of the tax dollars 00:56:07.987 --> 00:56:09.987 and the new development is going to increase the number 00:56:10.987 --> 00:56:12.987 of the amount of tax dollars. 00:56:13.467 --> 00:56:15.467 So that's one of the things you've seen in the graphs. 00:56:16.867 --> 00:56:18.867 And so we're only giving up 20% up to a maximum 00:56:20.307 --> 00:56:22.307 of 20% of each new dollar. 00:56:23.907 --> 00:56:25.907 It will keep everything we have. 00:56:25.947 --> 00:56:27.947 The reason we look negative is because the cost 00:56:28.987 --> 00:56:30.987 to provide services to the new development 00:56:32.227 --> 00:56:34.227 is more than they're bringing in, in all of our tax revenues. 00:56:36.707 --> 00:56:38.707 And so that's one of the reasons we created our services CFD. 00:56:40.348 --> 00:56:42.348 That's a component that will be in addition to this. 00:56:44.388 --> 00:56:46.388 And it's also because the development that's initially 00:56:47.268 --> 00:56:49.268 happening is single family homes for the most part. 00:56:50.468 --> 00:56:52.468 And those do tend to be 00:56:52.588 --> 00:56:54.588 tend to cost us more to deliver services to them 00:56:55.468 --> 00:56:58.268 than the tax dollars they generate. As you get into the later years in about 20, 35, sometime 00:57:01.108 --> 00:57:03.548 after that we lose the negative situation and that's 00:57:05.268 --> 00:57:07.268 because we have other types of development in that area 00:57:08.388 --> 00:57:10.388 that are not as expensive to provide services to you. 00:57:11.908 --> 00:57:14.228 OK, and then real quick question. So how do we figure out what our share of the 200 year 00:57:17.680 --> 00:57:19.748 floodplain fixes so that we're not paying for other municipalities? 00:57:21.268 --> 00:57:23.908 So can you kind of explain to that or who's going to explain that? 00:57:24.508 --> 00:57:26.188 Sure, sure. It's a little difficult 00:57:26.588 --> 00:57:28.588 to pinpoint precisely because of the variable rate 00:57:30.389 --> 00:57:32.389 over time, 00:57:32.429 --> 00:57:34.429 but we can certainly calculate from a maximum standpoint, 00:57:35.690 --> 00:57:36.549 where are you going to try. To I just want to make sure we're not paying for the threat. 00:57:37.269 --> 00:57:39.509 It's not that I don't it but I mean, I don't think that 00:57:39.509 --> 00:57:41.509 people want our city dollars going somewhere else. Right. 00:57:41.989 --> 00:57:43.989 So so with respect to the IFB that's built into that, that 00:57:47.389 --> 00:57:49.389 the tax rates that the tax allocation rates 00:57:50.909 --> 00:57:52.909 that Jamie showed on that on that table 00:57:53.290 --> 00:57:55.290 where it's 47% for the county in the early years and 00:57:56.189 --> 00:57:58.189 and five and 10% for Manteca and Lathrop. 00:58:00.690 --> 00:58:02.690 The other thing to consider are the other funding mechanisms as well. 00:58:03.269 --> 00:58:05.269 And so, you know, we've taken a regional approach 00:58:05.789 --> 00:58:07.789 with respect to the development impact fee 00:58:08.869 --> 00:58:10.869 so we're we're looking at the entire area in terms of 00:58:13.709 --> 00:58:15.709 the amount of funding coming from new development 00:58:15.989 --> 00:58:18.469 and how much new development is paying as well 00:58:18.469 --> 00:58:21.310 as the proposed assessment, which would cover the entire as well. 00:58:22.510 --> 00:58:24.510 So we've cut the numbers and 00:58:25.750 --> 00:58:27.750 and looked at an attributed different sources 00:58:28.830 --> 00:58:30.830 of funding to different to different jurisdictions. 00:58:33.150 --> 00:58:35.670 I don't have that analysis with me, but we can certainly provide that back to the to the 00:58:37.630 --> 00:58:39.630 jurisdictions and kind of break it down 00:58:39.830 --> 00:58:42.350 by funding mechanism in the future. So be helpful. 00:58:42.350 --> 00:58:44.750 So then the reason why the the county is paying 47% 00:58:45.110 --> 00:58:47.110 because they're going to see an increase immediately 00:58:47.990 --> 00:58:50.910 in the revenue. So I don't understand that. So why would they pay 47% 00:58:51.350 --> 00:58:53.350 or they're going to get more just from the benefit. 00:58:53.430 --> 00:58:56.270 So they would contribute a higher percentage because they get a higher 00:58:56.310 --> 00:58:58.310 share of property tax revenues early on. 00:58:58.390 --> 00:59:01.150 OK, so it's not, it's that when. They pay their fair. Share but they're. 00:59:02.150 --> 00:59:04.870 Going to pay their fair share earlier. Correct portion. 00:59:05.190 --> 00:59:07.300 So I mentioned that this contributes about less than 1% of your operating budget. 00:59:09.990 --> 00:59:11.871 For them, it's less than a half a percent or less than a quarter 00:59:12.991 --> 00:59:14.991 of a percent of their operating budget. 00:59:15.151 --> 00:59:17.151 So the relativity of the investment they can. 00:59:17.471 --> 00:59:19.271 Exactly. Afford to put in a little more earlier on. 00:59:20.311 --> 00:59:23.310 So the benefit outweighs the risk. Yeah. OK, Mayor. Councilmember Walmsley 00:59:25.711 --> 00:59:28.351 here, you wanted to. Thank you, Mayor. 00:59:28.351 --> 00:59:30.351 I wanted to if you could afford everyone 00:59:31.951 --> 00:59:33.951 the opportunity to go back to the slide where 00:59:35.310 --> 00:59:37.310 it shows the boundaries that we're discussing tonight 00:59:38.710 --> 00:59:40.231 and just give us a little more information on the consequences of this 00:59:43.911 --> 00:59:45.911 not passing like what areas in Stockton will be impacted 00:59:48.271 --> 00:59:50.431 the most and why? Just a little more information. 00:59:52.551 --> 00:59:54.551 Sure, sure. The 00:59:55.310 --> 00:59:57.310 there's a small portion of undeveloped 00:59:57.511 --> 00:59:59.511 property, residential property within Westin Ranch. 01:00:00.632 --> 01:00:03.552 It's it's a very small portion. So there any undeveloped lots and Western Ranch 01:00:04.992 --> 01:00:07.592 you would not be allowed to issue a single family residential permit 01:00:08.632 --> 01:00:10.632 in anywhere that doesn't have 200 year 01:00:10.912 --> 01:00:13.912 flood protection or a plan to achieve 200 year flood protection by 2028 in this boundary so immediately 01:00:17.552 --> 01:00:19.552 if we didn't have the ability to make 01:00:20.912 --> 01:00:23.872 for the city to support its findings of adequate progress that it's adopted 01:00:25.720 --> 01:00:27.720 the issuance of residential permits in any jurisdiction 01:00:27.752 --> 01:00:29.752 any by any jurisdiction within this area would not be allowed 01:00:32.392 --> 01:00:34.392 any discretionary land use approvals. 01:00:34.472 --> 01:00:36.992 So that would mean anything that would come before a planning commission 01:00:37.672 --> 01:00:39.672 or the council for approval like a like a parcel map 01:00:41.432 --> 01:00:43.432 or a tentative subdivision map or even a discretionary approval 01:00:44.752 --> 01:00:46.752 by your planning commission such as design review. 01:00:47.352 --> 01:00:49.432 Anything that's discretionary would would be prohibited in this area. 01:00:50.193 --> 01:00:52.873 So if there's any planned development around that, around the French tramp 01:00:54.153 --> 01:00:56.433 exit and commercial that would need services from the city 01:00:57.513 --> 01:01:00.433 presumably be annexed to the city, you would not be able to make any of those 01:01:02.193 --> 01:01:04.193 discretionary land use approvals in this area. 01:01:04.873 --> 01:01:06.873 Without a plan to achieve 200 year flood protection by 20, 01:01:08.673 --> 01:01:10.673 28 or actually having 200 year flood protection in place. 01:01:13.153 --> 01:01:15.153 Hopefully that gives you a little bit of a flavor of 01:01:15.353 --> 01:01:17.353 what the what the restrictions are and by SB five. 01:01:19.193 --> 01:01:21.193 So no more growth in areas within the city that's already. 01:01:23.913 --> 01:01:25.913 Within this boundary. That within this boundary of the city. 01:01:26.793 --> 01:01:28.793 This portion of the city. Thank you. 01:01:29.330 --> 01:01:31.330 Yeah. City Manager Black. 01:01:32.553 --> 01:01:34.553 So again, as the CFO our CFO has stated, you know, the staff 01:01:36.193 --> 01:01:38.473 was supportive of this. We recommend your ongoing and continued support of this. 01:01:41.194 --> 01:01:43.234 Just think that it's important to really understand this is a very complex scenario. 01:01:45.754 --> 01:01:48.554 So I have a question. I, it's a rhetorical question, but I think 01:01:50.714 --> 01:01:52.714 I'd just like to get it get it out anyway. 01:01:53.354 --> 01:01:55.354 Once the district is to the point 01:01:56.194 --> 01:01:58.194 where it's ready to issue debt. 01:01:58.394 --> 01:02:01.194 Will there be any. Real or implied moral obligation 01:02:03.834 --> 01:02:05.834 on the part of the participating jurisdictions. 01:02:11.954 --> 01:02:13.954 Will there be any real or moral obligation or. 01:02:14.354 --> 01:02:16.234 Implied. Or implied. Real or implied. 01:02:18.554 --> 01:02:20.554 The maximum obligation would be what is committed 01:02:22.114 --> 01:02:24.114 in the infrastructure financing plan at formation. 01:02:24.874 --> 01:02:27.634 Even if. The growth is not there to support that number. 01:02:32.195 --> 01:02:34.195 If the growth is not there to support that number, then. 01:02:35.750 --> 01:02:37.750 But you've issued debt. Well. 01:02:37.955 --> 01:02:39.955 I guess reflective of that growth. 01:02:40.155 --> 01:02:42.155 You want let me try. 01:02:42.635 --> 01:02:43.995 Let me try. I think I know where you're going. 01:02:45.395 --> 01:02:47.395 We can't issue debt without the revenue 01:02:47.675 --> 01:02:49.675 to support it, so we wouldn't be in that circumstance. 01:02:52.750 --> 01:02:54.155 Because the underwriting we would we can't market that debt. 01:02:54.475 --> 01:02:56.475 It's not salable on the open market. 01:03:00.350 --> 01:03:02.350 That's 01:03:05.350 --> 01:03:07.350 it is. 01:03:07.475 --> 01:03:09.795 That that's really my question. My question is you issue debt based on OK, thank you. 01:03:17.750 --> 01:03:19.515 I if I may give you a quantitative example, OK, please. 01:03:21.116 --> 01:03:23.556 All right. If the original anticipation was we were going to issue 01:03:26.916 --> 01:03:28.916 $100 million with the debt and the revenue to support 01:03:30.196 --> 01:03:32.196 $100 million worth of debt was 3 million from the 50. 01:03:35.796 --> 01:03:38.356 When we go to issue the debt and the EFC is only generating $1 million of the revenue, 01:03:41.436 --> 01:03:43.436 we cannot issue $100 million worth of debt. 01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:46.360 But what if you've issued the $100 million 01:03:47.156 --> 01:03:49.156 and at some point in the future after issuing the debt 01:03:50.756 --> 01:03:52.756 the assessed value for some economic market reason 01:03:53.796 --> 01:03:56.116 goes down. What happens. 01:03:58.316 --> 01:04:00.316 It we may be able to reach beyond the. 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:02.396 Yeah. The the city's maxim of exposure is 20% of its increment. 01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:08.360 So so define exposure. 01:04:08.636 --> 01:04:10.636 There is no there is no the public 01:04:11.717 --> 01:04:13.717 financing authority is a separate entity 01:04:14.837 --> 01:04:16.837 so there's no connection back to the city 01:04:18.117 --> 01:04:20.117 other than the maximum 20% right. 01:04:22.397 --> 01:04:24.397 Which which as you noted would have gone down 01:04:24.637 --> 01:04:26.637 and if it's less than 20% right. 01:04:26.877 --> 01:04:28.437 So we would have to. Find it from some other source to make up the difference. 01:04:29.837 --> 01:04:32.757 This is my point. The public financing authority would have to find it 01:04:34.197 --> 01:04:36.197 from some other place. Correct. 01:04:36.517 --> 01:04:38.717 And so they would not come back to the city for that is what you're saying your. 01:04:40.477 --> 01:04:42.477 Obligation would be what's, what's in the documents. Yeah. 01:04:42.997 --> 01:04:45.757 I can't presuppose that what the actions of the public financing 01:04:46.717 --> 01:04:48.717 authority may be in that circumstance, but the commitment 01:04:51.517 --> 01:04:53.517 that's codified information is the 20% maximum. 01:04:55.770 --> 01:04:56.597 So again, I don't. Ask this question as, as a means of not being supportive. 01:04:59.197 --> 01:05:01.370 We support this, but I think it's important for you to understand 01:05:03.780 --> 01:05:05.780 the complexities and the ins and outs of this 01:05:05.638 --> 01:05:07.638 so that ten years down the road, 20 years down the road. 01:05:08.758 --> 01:05:11.518 People wonder. Well, what happened? 01:05:13.158 --> 01:05:15.380 That's all. But we support this and we recommend your ongoing 01:05:17.518 --> 01:05:19.518 and continuous support of this effort as well. 01:05:21.318 --> 01:05:24.278 Councilmember Right. So Councilmember Warm, 01:05:24.598 --> 01:05:26.598 we went into this a little bit already, but 01:05:27.558 --> 01:05:29.558 just again, going to the issue of what are the consequences 01:05:30.998 --> 01:05:32.998 of not doing this, and we've spoken to the financial 01:05:35.638 --> 01:05:37.638 consequences of it and our inability to develop 01:05:39.718 --> 01:05:41.718 and grow and and serve the residents within the floodplain. 01:05:44.798 --> 01:05:46.798 OK, and but beyond that, 01:05:47.780 --> 01:05:49.780 we also have the very real issue of flood danger. 01:05:50.799 --> 01:05:52.799 You in the last two years, we've had two major days of flooding 01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:56.119 where literally it was only two days of heavy rains 01:05:58.359 --> 01:06:00.359 and our sewer systems were unable to deal 01:06:00.879 --> 01:06:02.879 with with that that overflow. 01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:06.279 If we had. A real flood event where it's an early spring melt, 01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:11.399 which, you know, brought some heavy rains, too, after a long winter snow, 01:06:14.399 --> 01:06:16.399 we would be looking at some very serious flood events. 01:06:17.479 --> 01:06:19.479 And with the climate change we've been going through, 01:06:19.919 --> 01:06:22.799 it's a very real possibility. So any flood improvements we can make 01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:27.119 are in the best interest safety wise. 01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:30.359 Also of the residents of the floodplain, especially the residents of Western Ranch 01:06:32.999 --> 01:06:34.999 who back in 1997, if you remember. 01:06:35.919 --> 01:06:38.119 Yeah. You know. Were they they, they were right there putting up. 01:06:40.200 --> 01:06:42.200 Sandbags trying to keep the waters out 01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:44.840 and and it was very close to cresting the levee 01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:47.840 and there were numerous boils and the levees it was so these 01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:52.760 without a doubt these improvements are needed. 01:06:53.200 --> 01:06:55.720 We've got to figure out how to do it. So the real answer is is this fair. 01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:58.880 And I think I 01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:01.000 Jamie have done a really good job of explaining 01:07:01.560 --> 01:07:04.160 how this was developed and we've also done a very good job of explaining 01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:08.400 there's no existing monies going out for this. 01:07:09.200 --> 01:07:11.200 This is all being paid for out of growth. 01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:14.280 And if the growth doesn't occur, it doesn't come from us. 01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:18.800 And I think that's the real thing. You need to remember here. 01:07:18.720 --> 01:07:20.720 So. Councilmember Joe Brack. 01:07:21.720 --> 01:07:23.720 Thank you for your quick questions for clarity. 01:07:24.560 --> 01:07:26.560 The tax sharing agreement, are we talking about all taxes 01:07:27.240 --> 01:07:29.240 generated in the area or just property taxes? 01:07:29.680 --> 01:07:31.721 Just property tax. So quick question. 01:07:32.401 --> 01:07:35.121 Rhetorical we'll go with. But so what what taxes are typically generated 01:07:37.801 --> 01:07:39.801 on a household per per household on fallow dirt? 01:07:42.961 --> 01:07:45.810 How much tax increment? How much how much. 01:07:45.810 --> 01:07:47.810 Sales tax, how much how much taxes do 01:07:47.281 --> 01:07:49.281 fallow dirt really provide for the city. 01:07:49.401 --> 01:07:52.100 Generally? Very little. Yeah. So I think that's kind of with a start I want to go with 01:07:54.121 --> 01:07:56.121 this is most of this because I'm familiar with this 01:07:56.961 --> 01:07:58.961 this area, it's fallow dirt and it's some of the lowest 01:08:00.810 --> 01:08:02.681 probably land values we have. And it's not I can tell you it's not even there there 01:08:04.521 --> 01:08:06.681 for a lot of this stuff. Is there factor base your values on these homes 01:08:07.841 --> 01:08:10.481 most of these properties, a lot of them are what's called Prop eight. So 01:08:12.161 --> 01:08:14.201 almost every owner of this area because they can't even build on this tour 01:08:16.281 --> 01:08:18.281 annually is filing an appeal to the counties saying 01:08:19.401 --> 01:08:22.362 I can't build on this. It's got no value. I can't even grow grown crops on it. 01:08:23.402 --> 01:08:25.402 So some of this right now is our lowest value dirt 01:08:28.420 --> 01:08:30.420 what this will do is give us an opportunity 01:08:32.162 --> 01:08:34.162 for organizations, for developers, for 01:08:35.922 --> 01:08:37.922 people to now create master plans to comply 01:08:39.482 --> 01:08:41.482 with the tutoring field plan, to trigger a flood plan, 01:08:41.762 --> 01:08:43.762 which then allows us to start capturing things. 01:08:45.482 --> 01:08:47.762 To me, we already don't rely too terribly much on property taxes. 01:08:50.402 --> 01:08:52.402 We really rely on sales taxes or bodies. 01:08:54.200 --> 01:08:56.200 And I can tell you from speaking to developers 01:08:56.162 --> 01:08:58.162 wanting to come into the city of Stockton, 01:08:58.802 --> 01:09:00.802 one of the biggest challenges, 01:09:00.882 --> 01:09:02.882 average household income or just how many rooftops 01:09:04.282 --> 01:09:06.420 they've been on. Once again, nobody wants to come here if there's no rooftops 01:09:06.642 --> 01:09:09.122 to support their business. So I can tell you that since zero rooftops generate 00 01:09:12.963 --> 01:09:14.963 tax has zero household incomes, 01:09:15.163 --> 01:09:17.803 this is a move in the right direction. To me, very little risk, a whole lot of reward. So 01:09:21.123 --> 01:09:23.123 some of your assumptions like you're the expert, I'm 01:09:23.523 --> 01:09:25.523 a little nervous with some of the debt service 01:09:25.683 --> 01:09:27.683 and the interest rates because we see those things 01:09:27.723 --> 01:09:30.403 jumping all over the place right now. And the 3% seems conservative, but it seems like 01:09:34.300 --> 01:09:36.300 at least the direction we're going right now 01:09:37.830 --> 01:09:39.830 expenses seem to be outpacing a lot 01:09:39.963 --> 01:09:41.963 when it comes to revenue. So 01:09:42.763 --> 01:09:44.763 I would have liked to have seen even a more extreme model 01:09:45.723 --> 01:09:47.723 just because it makes me feel a little bit more comfortable 01:09:48.243 --> 01:09:50.243 with just a little higher expense ratio. 01:09:51.523 --> 01:09:54.523 So we see even what the the bigger risk would be because I think 01:09:54.843 --> 01:09:57.403 that's probably more likely. I don't see expenses going down as I think 01:09:58.523 --> 01:10:00.523 yeah, I think interest are revenue as well. 01:10:00.844 --> 01:10:02.844 So this is necessary. 01:10:04.440 --> 01:10:06.440 Very little risk, whole lot of reward and and safety 01:10:07.724 --> 01:10:09.724 on top of it makes it this easy to support. 01:10:11.324 --> 01:10:13.924 Vice Mayor Fugazi. Thank you, Mayor 01:10:15.524 --> 01:10:17.524 as said by many of my colleagues up here, 01:10:19.324 --> 01:10:21.324 this is not something we go into lightly, but knowing 01:10:22.404 --> 01:10:24.404 that no future development can occur unless we do this, 01:10:26.440 --> 01:10:28.440 there were a lot of promises made to the residents of Weston 01:10:29.284 --> 01:10:31.284 Ranch, a lot of promises that never came true. 01:10:32.924 --> 01:10:35.884 And so as we move forward with this, this will provide an opportunity. 01:10:36.604 --> 01:10:38.604 And I'm hoping this council will revisit it. 01:10:38.844 --> 01:10:41.444 The big box ordinance that actually put a stop to some of the development 01:10:43.444 --> 01:10:45.444 that has was planned and proposed for out there. 01:10:47.164 --> 01:10:49.164 But we we can't simply ignore 01:10:50.685 --> 01:10:52.685 this out of fear and unless the fear is true. 01:10:55.565 --> 01:10:57.565 And what the fear is for me is that we have massive flooding 01:10:59.285 --> 01:11:01.805 that then causes extreme situations for the people that live out there, 01:11:04.685 --> 01:11:06.685 the people that have invested all of their 01:11:08.405 --> 01:11:10.405 you figure savings into being be buying their first home 01:11:11.805 --> 01:11:14.685 and raising their family out there. You've got schools out there, you've got parks out there. 01:11:16.845 --> 01:11:19.445 We need to do our part. And I think that if down the road people 01:11:21.500 --> 01:11:23.500 look back and said, what were they thinking 01:11:23.450 --> 01:11:25.485 they can reference this meeting. We didn't take this lightly, lightly, but we have to do what 01:11:28.405 --> 01:11:30.405 we have to do in order to move forward. 01:11:31.525 --> 01:11:33.525 And so I'm in support of this 01:11:34.850 --> 01:11:36.925 and us moving this on. So 01:11:39.925 --> 01:11:41.925 Councilmember Walmsley. 01:11:42.246 --> 01:11:43.886 Thank you, Mayor. And I have to echo the same sentiments as vice mayor. 01:11:47.166 --> 01:11:49.166 I live in Western Ranch my whole family does. 01:11:50.766 --> 01:11:52.606 I remember when it was the first Western Ranch, which was the other side 01:11:54.966 --> 01:11:57.286 of Amber's skirt. This is a conversation and has happened in the last 01:12:00.526 --> 01:12:02.526 you know, I'm going to give my age a little bit 01:12:02.886 --> 01:12:04.886 the last 40 years of my life, 01:12:06.366 --> 01:12:08.366 the fear of having to move your family 01:12:10.126 --> 01:12:12.126 when we have those flood alerts is not fun. 01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:17.326 It's not fun. And similar to what the vice mayor says, this is 01:12:19.566 --> 01:12:21.566 this is reparations for the investment 01:12:23.486 --> 01:12:25.966 and the development that has lacked that community for far too long. 01:12:28.126 --> 01:12:30.126 And so a little bit of 01:12:31.470 --> 01:12:32.687 support and investment is going to go a long way. 01:12:35.567 --> 01:12:37.567 And I'm hoping that this will 01:12:38.847 --> 01:12:40.847 you know, be a support to further mitigations of true 01:12:43.607 --> 01:12:45.607 development that this community is deserving of. 01:12:46.767 --> 01:12:49.367 So I'm totally with it. 100%. 01:12:51.767 --> 01:12:53.767 And when will we be coming back before the council? 01:12:55.287 --> 01:12:57.287 We are coming back in June, 01:12:58.687 --> 01:13:00.687 and I think this June 14 01:13:02.207 --> 01:13:04.207 oh yes. 01:13:04.727 --> 01:13:06.927 Yeah. June 14th. Great. 01:13:07.407 --> 01:13:09.807 Thank you. And just remind the public, this is an informational item only for today 01:13:11.887 --> 01:13:13.887 and in the next hearing would be on June 14th. 01:13:15.647 --> 01:13:18.527 That's correct. OK, thank you. Thank you for your great questions. 01:13:19.700 --> 01:13:21.700 Appreciate it. 01:13:21.808 --> 01:13:23.808 Item nine Point to adopt resolution to authorize 01:13:24.568 --> 01:13:26.568 the new City Hall renovations and relocation project staff. 01:13:27.888 --> 01:13:29.888 You have the floor to present. 01:13:29.968 --> 01:13:31.968 Yes, we 01:13:44.368 --> 01:13:46.568 hi. Good evening. Mayor Council members Jody Al Massey, Public Works Director 01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:52.800 So let me catch up with the slide 01:13:58.608 --> 01:14:01.480 I'm excited to be here tonight. So this is a huge milestone. 01:14:01.928 --> 01:14:03.928 I remember being an intern back in the late nineties 01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:06.880 and there was always talks about moving to a new city hall. 01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:09.880 So for me, this is like a career miracle. 01:14:10.729 --> 01:14:12.969 This is surreal. And before us tonight, really, this is the opportunity 01:14:15.529 --> 01:14:17.529 for us to move into construction for our new city hall project. 01:14:19.569 --> 01:14:21.569 So I want to say maybe fall of 20, 21. 01:14:23.249 --> 01:14:25.289 It's been about six months I was here 01:14:25.289 --> 01:14:28.249 with an informational update so we're going to recap a few things, 01:14:29.609 --> 01:14:31.609 but I'm going to try to be a little bit deliberate to cover 01:14:32.490 --> 01:14:34.569 the important new stuff. So if you have any questions along the way, just let me know 01:14:37.569 --> 01:14:39.849 location are new city hall will be located on West Webber Avenue. 01:14:41.969 --> 01:14:43.969 This is going to be adjacent to the waterfront warehouse. 01:14:45.649 --> 01:14:47.649 So on the map here you'll see the rectangular piece. 01:14:49.900 --> 01:14:51.489 That's the site. It's on roughly 4.3 acres. 01:14:54.209 --> 01:14:56.209 And just across the street we have an end developed a lot 01:14:57.769 --> 01:14:59.769 that we're going to convert into additional parking. 01:15:00.170 --> 01:15:03.100 It'll be surface parking. The existing site has parking for about 380 vehicles 01:15:06.530 --> 01:15:08.530 and with the new parking lot, we're expecting to add 01:15:09.170 --> 01:15:11.170 an additional 340 01:15:13.770 --> 01:15:15.610 this next slide just shows general project information. 01:15:17.690 --> 01:15:19.690 So you guys are aware, but I'll go ahead and recap. 01:15:20.250 --> 01:15:22.250 We have two existing buildings there, each five stories. 01:15:24.500 --> 01:15:26.500 One actually has a basement, so six stories. 01:15:26.850 --> 01:15:28.850 The combined square footage between the two buildings 01:15:29.370 --> 01:15:31.370 is 129,000 01:15:32.250 --> 01:15:34.250 we're doing improvements, tenant improvements inside. 01:15:35.210 --> 01:15:38.500 It's a complete renovation. We're doing work in the front and in the back plaza. 01:15:40.410 --> 01:15:42.410 And of course I mentioned the parking lot. 01:15:43.450 --> 01:15:46.450 So a little bit about the timeline. This project started in 2017 with the purchase 01:15:48.690 --> 01:15:50.690 of the waterfront towers the following year in 2018 01:15:53.910 --> 01:15:55.910 our architect Indigo Hammon and Pleyel was hired to do 01:15:57.510 --> 01:15:59.510 conceptual design and space planning. 01:15:59.851 --> 01:16:01.851 The following year in 2019 the architect was hired 01:16:03.571 --> 01:16:05.571 to do the actual construction drawings. 01:16:06.331 --> 01:16:08.331 So that's what we've been busy working on the design 01:16:09.971 --> 01:16:11.971 fast forward to 20, 21 this last year was really busy. 01:16:14.611 --> 01:16:17.531 We had several milestones. So if you recall back 01:16:17.611 --> 01:16:19.611 in September with your approval we had eight contractors 01:16:22.510 --> 01:16:24.510 that were approved for a pre qualified 01:16:25.291 --> 01:16:27.291 list allowing them to bid on this project. 01:16:28.451 --> 01:16:30.451 In November we had the approval 01:16:30.691 --> 01:16:32.691 of our construction management firm Griffin Structures. 01:16:34.651 --> 01:16:36.651 And then of course the biggie is that we finished design 01:16:38.510 --> 01:16:40.510 and so in December we advertised this project. 01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:44.920 Fast forward to March of 2022. 01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:47.920 We opened bids out of the eight contractors we received forbids 01:16:49.892 --> 01:16:51.892 the other four contractors were committed to other work 01:16:52.412 --> 01:16:54.412 and just didn't have the capacity. 01:16:55.252 --> 01:16:57.252 So our engineers estimate was 38 million, a little over 38 01:16:59.572 --> 01:17:01.572 the bids we received ranged between 42 and 47 million. 01:17:04.492 --> 01:17:06.492 The low bidder Roebling Contracting from El Dorado Hills 01:17:08.612 --> 01:17:11.520 was our low bidder. The bid 01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:13.520 was over by approximately 11%. 01:17:14.412 --> 01:17:16.412 And so despite it being overpaid, 01:17:17.852 --> 01:17:19.852 I'm here to tell you that the bid is good. 01:17:21.932 --> 01:17:23.932 I recommend awarding, 01:17:24.332 --> 01:17:26.332 I do not recommend looking at other opportunities. 01:17:27.732 --> 01:17:29.732 My fear is that there are no savings opportunities 01:17:31.413 --> 01:17:33.413 if we start this project any further. 01:17:33.933 --> 01:17:35.933 We've talked about the market. 01:17:35.973 --> 01:17:37.973 It's very dynamic the complexity of escalating labor 01:17:40.930 --> 01:17:42.930 and materials and now oil prices. 01:17:43.530 --> 01:17:45.530 So I just want to remind everybody that time is of the 01:17:46.413 --> 01:17:48.413 essence and I do recommend awarding 01:17:52.973 --> 01:17:54.733 project goal. As you know, historic city hall. 01:17:57.173 --> 01:17:59.173 It's hanging on by bandaids and our goal is to consolidate 01:18:01.333 --> 01:18:03.333 departments and consolidate services 01:18:06.493 --> 01:18:08.493 next steps. 01:18:08.813 --> 01:18:10.813 So with the word of the construction contract tonight, 01:18:11.253 --> 01:18:13.253 we're ready to begin construction this summer. 01:18:14.573 --> 01:18:17.533 We're hoping to start mid-summer. And then also we're looking at spring of next year. 01:18:19.813 --> 01:18:21.813 We would award the construction contract for the parking 01:18:23.940 --> 01:18:25.940 lots, spring of 20, 24. 01:18:26.134 --> 01:18:28.134 We expect to be completed with construction, 01:18:30.940 --> 01:18:32.940 the tenant improvements and the parking lots. 01:18:32.654 --> 01:18:34.934 And shortly thereafter, we look forward to start the relocation process. 01:18:38.254 --> 01:18:40.254 We originally had a expedited window to get the work done 01:18:43.374 --> 01:18:45.374 and through the bidding process, the construction community 01:18:46.894 --> 01:18:48.894 came to us and said, it's too tight, we can't do it. 01:18:50.974 --> 01:18:52.974 So if you're recalling from my last update, Hey, how come the timeline 01:18:54.454 --> 01:18:56.814 has been extended? It's because the construction industry 01:18:59.494 --> 01:19:01.934 said, work with us. It's, it's very difficult. Again, the market. 01:19:03.374 --> 01:19:05.374 So we want to make sure to keep keep things going. 01:19:06.174 --> 01:19:08.174 And this was an opportunity. So we have extended that duration 01:19:10.895 --> 01:19:12.895 now on this 01:19:12.935 --> 01:19:14.935 slide deck, I don't have any slides that talk about the cost, 01:19:17.295 --> 01:19:19.550 but I do want to spend a little bit of time to do a quick overview 01:19:21.855 --> 01:19:23.855 at total construction costs. 01:19:23.935 --> 01:19:25.935 So when we look at construction, we're not just looking at that 01:19:27.615 --> 01:19:29.615 hard construction contract cost we're looking at everything. 01:19:32.215 --> 01:19:34.215 I refer to them as soft costs. 01:19:34.255 --> 01:19:36.255 So construction management design support 01:19:37.775 --> 01:19:40.455 during construction. We also have permitting, we have design contingency set aside. 01:19:44.535 --> 01:19:46.535 We also have utility connection fees. 01:19:47.950 --> 01:19:49.950 We have fixtures, furnishings and equipment 01:19:49.415 --> 01:19:51.415 that need to go inside the buildings. 01:19:51.455 --> 01:19:53.455 And then, of course, it's the final relocation process, 01:19:54.695 --> 01:19:56.455 right? So our total in for construction is 58 million. 01:20:01.176 --> 01:20:03.176 And again, this includes everything, the soft costs. 01:20:04.536 --> 01:20:06.536 And for us to be able to award the construction contract 01:20:08.296 --> 01:20:10.160 to night before you is the approval of transferring $12.6 million 01:20:14.616 --> 01:20:16.616 and general fund contingency reserves to this project 01:20:20.256 --> 01:20:22.256 and then beyond that, 01:20:22.296 --> 01:20:24.296 to fund the remainder of the construction 01:20:24.896 --> 01:20:27.736 you can expect in June through the review and approval of the five year cap to see 01:20:31.136 --> 01:20:33.136 another $12.4 million in funding allocated to the project 01:20:44.736 --> 01:20:46.736 any questions so far shall I continue? 01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:50.936 Councilmember Joe Pat. Thank you, Mayor. So you mentioned 58 million. 01:20:52.497 --> 01:20:55.570 So included in the purchase of it. What does that come out to per square foot? 01:20:57.570 --> 01:20:59.857 What I think I can do the quick math, but I think it was roughly 450. 01:21:01.937 --> 01:21:03.937 So the original purchase was 13.6 million design contract 01:21:06.170 --> 01:21:08.137 was hovering just under 3 million. So and. 01:21:08.137 --> 01:21:10.137 So it went to furnishings. Everything. 01:21:10.257 --> 01:21:12.257 So I want to say it was 450 all in 01:21:12.297 --> 01:21:15.297 I think at the last informational update it was in the high 300 from six months ago. 01:21:17.257 --> 01:21:19.257 So and then just comparatively, you know, 01:21:19.537 --> 01:21:21.777 I know we looked at some alternatives. What were alternatives looking like for a cost per square foot. 01:21:26.970 --> 01:21:28.970 We haven't done anything on this order of magnitude. 01:21:29.970 --> 01:21:31.617 Right. We've done other project renovations that were in that same ballpark. 01:21:34.377 --> 01:21:36.817 For instance, I think we've mentioned before the PD basement remodel. 01:21:40.498 --> 01:21:42.498 The other alternative is, you know, 01:21:42.778 --> 01:21:45.778 we get asked the question of why don't you just start from a blank canvas and build that? 01:21:46.418 --> 01:21:48.418 So this is like similar to, say, Northeast Library, 01:21:50.218 --> 01:21:52.218 which is, you know, literally a blank canvas. 01:21:53.978 --> 01:21:55.978 The the price per square foot for that build. 01:21:58.580 --> 01:22:01.180 Six months ago, I think I looked at it, it was like $1,000 per square foot. 01:22:03.980 --> 01:22:05.298 So if you were to put that on the street today, add some escalators it's still going to be half 01:22:08.378 --> 01:22:10.378 of what a new complete build would cost. 01:22:11.338 --> 01:22:13.658 You know, I think that's where I want to go or the number jumps out at you. 01:22:14.818 --> 01:22:16.218 It's a lot. Of money for the city to have this 01:22:16.978 --> 01:22:19.538 and the cost associated with it. It seems like it's the trade off. 01:22:21.980 --> 01:22:23.378 Yes. Really good. Because, you know, for a professional building 01:22:23.938 --> 01:22:25.938 that's with you don't typically hear and furnishings. 01:22:28.458 --> 01:22:30.458 So those are always the costs that come at the very end. 01:22:30.939 --> 01:22:32.939 That's an extra couple, big number with some zeros on it. 01:22:35.990 --> 01:22:37.990 So our job is to present the all in. 01:22:39.419 --> 01:22:40.619 All right. So moving along, you've seen the renderings. 01:22:41.739 --> 01:22:44.739 Yes, sir. Councilmember Cannava just had a quick question 01:22:44.779 --> 01:22:46.779 so back and while we said all in, it was 69. 01:22:48.179 --> 01:22:50.379 Right. Can you kind of can you 01:22:50.379 --> 01:22:52.379 so that 11% can you kind of go back 01:22:52.619 --> 01:22:54.619 and explain that a little bit better 01:22:54.819 --> 01:22:56.819 so the 11% is built in at 11% is not built in 01:22:58.139 --> 01:23:00.139 for the final, final. 01:23:00.579 --> 01:23:02.579 The 11% over that engineer's estimate is built in built in. 01:23:04.739 --> 01:23:06.739 OK, and then so contingency wise the 69 million. 01:23:08.939 --> 01:23:10.939 Again I'm presenting the all in 01:23:10.979 --> 01:23:12.979 so usually for contingency with any construction project 01:23:14.590 --> 01:23:16.590 we'll do a 10% set aside for unknowns. 01:23:18.779 --> 01:23:20.779 OK all right thank you. 01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:26.420 You've seen these slides before, but just a quick overview of our renderings. 01:23:28.540 --> 01:23:30.540 This is our public services counter where again 01:23:32.460 --> 01:23:34.460 the main focus is to provide that platform for the public 01:23:35.660 --> 01:23:38.580 to access. You know, if you need prayer meeting, you need help with SD fire prevention. 01:23:41.220 --> 01:23:43.220 This next slide is the rendering 01:23:43.500 --> 01:23:45.500 of our future council chambers. 01:23:46.900 --> 01:23:48.900 And this shows a lobby. 01:23:49.180 --> 01:23:51.180 This is the fifth floor of one of the towers 01:23:54.580 --> 01:23:56.980 this is the front plaza. As you approach our buildings, 01:24:00.740 --> 01:24:03.580 most of the work here is just ADA improvements and some landscaping 01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:07.600 and repurposing of the water fountain 01:24:08.820 --> 01:24:11.701 so that leads me to my last slide and the final recommendation 01:24:16.461 --> 01:24:18.381 so really tonight we're asking you to give approval 01:24:19.501 --> 01:24:21.501 or authorization to our city manager 01:24:21.741 --> 01:24:23.741 to approve the plans and specifications the transfer 01:24:25.741 --> 01:24:27.741 of $12.6 million and general fund contingency reserves. 01:24:30.421 --> 01:24:32.781 Sorry. And then the ability to award a construction contract 01:24:35.210 --> 01:24:37.210 to Roebling Contracting for 42 plus million dollars. 01:24:39.621 --> 01:24:41.621 And then lastly, amendment number five 01:24:42.421 --> 01:24:44.421 with our architect to provide design support services. 01:24:46.781 --> 01:24:48.781 That concludes my presentation. 01:24:49.741 --> 01:24:51.101 Thank you. Clark, do we have any public comments? 01:24:53.101 --> 01:24:56.210 We do not oh. Actually, we do. 01:24:56.821 --> 01:24:58.821 Mr. Ernest Williams. 01:25:00.302 --> 01:25:02.702 Not Mr. Ernest Williams. 01:25:02.702 --> 01:25:05.702 You can take the podium if you'd like to submit a public comment. 01:25:06.822 --> 01:25:08.822 There are blue cards in the back of the wall. 01:25:09.262 --> 01:25:11.262 One fill one of those out and give it to the clerk 01:25:14.382 --> 01:25:16.382 Mr. Williams. 01:25:17.542 --> 01:25:19.542 Oh, my 01:25:22.142 --> 01:25:24.142 goodness. 01:25:26.102 --> 01:25:28.102 Sorry. 01:25:35.182 --> 01:25:37.702 Hello, everybody. Good evening. 01:25:38.222 --> 01:25:40.222 My name is Antonio Guyton. 01:25:40.622 --> 01:25:42.622 I'm actually here. 01:25:42.902 --> 01:25:45.262 I was seen. I didn't have time to prepare for this, but I see that you guys were 01:25:48.142 --> 01:25:50.142 trying to get approved for a 10.2 million to. 01:25:51.783 --> 01:25:54.630 I'm going to pause you right there. That's actually going to be the next item. 01:25:54.543 --> 01:25:57.343 OK, so this is the one shejust. Comments for item 9.2 for. 01:25:58.543 --> 01:26:00.543 This lady that just finished in a city hall building. 01:26:01.943 --> 01:26:04.503 I got a comment for that, too. So I wanted to know what was the purpose of moving City Hall? 01:26:07.583 --> 01:26:09.583 I mean, that's a lot of money to move a building saying 01:26:10.823 --> 01:26:12.623 and then I wanted to know what was happening to all the transients 01:26:13.823 --> 01:26:15.823 that are occupying that space over there. 01:26:16.230 --> 01:26:18.230 I notice that's right across from the DMV. 01:26:18.183 --> 01:26:20.183 I notice they set up camps and stuff over there. 01:26:21.230 --> 01:26:23.383 What's happening to those people? You know, we got all this money being threw around. 01:26:24.903 --> 01:26:26.623 I don't hear you guys coming up with any proposals or bills for the homeless. 01:26:28.663 --> 01:26:31.143 And they're occupying our space. Either you guys are 01:26:31.143 --> 01:26:33.423 going to throw them out, like, what's going on? Like, I'm 01:26:33.423 --> 01:26:36.103 trying to get a little bit more information instead of you guys just throwing all these numbers. 01:26:37.583 --> 01:26:40.463 And, you know, I pay my taxes. I actually voted for you. 01:26:40.984 --> 01:26:43.904 So I'm here trying to figure out what's going on because it seemed like a lot of people 01:26:44.744 --> 01:26:46.744 are trying to pull the wool over the public's here. 01:26:46.904 --> 01:26:49.640 And I really don't know. I really don't know about this. 01:26:49.904 --> 01:26:51.904 So I'm just trying to get a little more information. 01:26:52.384 --> 01:26:55.640 I don't understand why we need to move city hall. This is pretty nice. 01:26:55.640 --> 01:26:57.344 I mean, this council this is nice in here, you know, saying like, 01:26:58.640 --> 01:26:59.704 I don't understand why we got to put that much money 01:27:00.544 --> 01:27:02.544 into moving a building that's already, 01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:05.640 you know, pretty nice, you know, and I see 01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:08.640 those two pillar buildings over there. 01:27:08.824 --> 01:27:10.824 I mean, nobody needs a waterfront view. 01:27:11.384 --> 01:27:14.304 I mean, I'm saying nobody needs that. I mean, it looks nice. It looks real fancy. 01:27:15.104 --> 01:27:16.824 It looks real good. But that's a lot of money being spent on moving a building 01:27:19.184 --> 01:27:21.184 when you guys could do the same job in this building. 01:27:21.304 --> 01:27:23.344 I don't understand it. It just doesn't make sense to me at all. 01:27:24.344 --> 01:27:26.344 And that's all I have to say. 01:27:27.184 --> 01:27:29.384 Thank you, sir, for your comments. We'll have a staff member follow up with you 01:27:30.185 --> 01:27:32.225 before you leave, OK? For sure. 01:27:34.625 --> 01:27:36.625 Ralph White 01:27:47.145 --> 01:27:49.145 I real concern as I sit up here and Marcelo appear 01:27:54.145 --> 01:27:56.585 work on that last item a few minutes ago, you all know 01:27:56.585 --> 01:27:58.585 what the hell was going on and take much time to digest 01:28:00.225 --> 01:28:02.225 all that stuff. You listen to the city manager. 01:28:02.465 --> 01:28:04.465 I mean, he has this off the hook. 01:28:06.265 --> 01:28:08.265 You know, I know money just like Mr. 01:28:09.265 --> 01:28:12.105 Campbell. No money to and he was asked and. Right question rest you agree and when all that 01:28:14.945 --> 01:28:16.945 late the big you remember later now is the richest 01:28:17.985 --> 01:28:19.985 building area right now in this close to the dam 01:28:21.386 --> 01:28:23.386 this close to flooding in anything 01:28:23.586 --> 01:28:25.586 and apart of a few minutes ago you were speaking of the water 01:28:27.506 --> 01:28:29.506 I'll get to that later but this how much did we pay for the 01:28:34.146 --> 01:28:36.146 hotel that we the building we went make what we cash 01:28:37.426 --> 01:28:39.426 the chase building remember when we got spent all that money 01:28:42.786 --> 01:28:44.786 city money I think we spend millions of dollars 01:28:45.586 --> 01:28:47.586 for that land and put up 30 some million buy 01:28:48.226 --> 01:28:50.226 the property now we're going to go in buy a piece of property. 01:28:51.586 --> 01:28:53.586 We paid double what it was worth when they bought it 01:28:54.546 --> 01:28:56.426 because the the council was sitting up in some things was worked out. 01:28:57.586 --> 01:28:59.746 You know, I know how that worked. I worked there many years and I was good at it. 01:29:01.666 --> 01:29:03.666 So I know what went down. 01:29:03.866 --> 01:29:05.866 The people then go, whoop, washed into a building 01:29:06.826 --> 01:29:08.826 that's already on the water already to redo that building. 01:29:11.107 --> 01:29:13.107 You can tell the whole damn building down and redo it 01:29:13.667 --> 01:29:15.667 for less than 60, some for $47 million. 01:29:17.707 --> 01:29:19.707 The building is not worth it and any of you know it 01:29:20.467 --> 01:29:22.467 and no real estate before they tell you it was already cracked 01:29:23.947 --> 01:29:25.947 and thing that building was already cracked all happened 01:29:27.947 --> 01:29:29.947 and you're redoing the building that's already so you're 01:29:31.187 --> 01:29:33.187 using a lot of taxpayers money 01:29:33.547 --> 01:29:35.547 but since you want to use their money I would love to see 01:29:36.827 --> 01:29:38.787 these contractors that we're going to get out of El Dorado Hills 01:29:39.987 --> 01:29:42.347 because you know there's not too many black folks living out around here. 01:29:43.270 --> 01:29:45.587 But then when they come here to work, I would like to know how many black people 01:29:46.267 --> 01:29:48.107 are going to be working as what we get our fair share of the jobs 01:29:49.867 --> 01:29:51.867 because as we put in our fair share money on it, 01:29:52.947 --> 01:29:55.187 I don't want no affirmative action. I want fair share. 01:29:55.907 --> 01:29:57.907 And that is the percentage of the jobs right now. 01:29:58.587 --> 01:30:00.587 Every job coming in the stock almost we're left out. 01:30:03.108 --> 01:30:05.148 And I like to see that, including right here in city hall. 01:30:06.468 --> 01:30:08.468 I mean, it's moving in a direction, 01:30:09.508 --> 01:30:11.508 but every department in the city of Stockton 01:30:12.148 --> 01:30:14.148 should have its fair share of black people in it. 01:30:14.588 --> 01:30:16.588 Like we got everybody else going in. 01:30:16.628 --> 01:30:18.628 All the other ones are moving fast. 01:30:18.908 --> 01:30:20.908 Mississippi West is against a small town in Stockton right 01:30:22.228 --> 01:30:24.228 now, the population and dropped a hell of a lot, 01:30:25.588 --> 01:30:27.588 but it have increased in other areas. 01:30:28.348 --> 01:30:30.348 And I would like to see affirmative action that we had. 01:30:32.308 --> 01:30:34.308 We can give it another name, fair share in every department. 01:30:35.668 --> 01:30:37.308 When I go over to try to get a building permit, it's a little late. 01:30:39.280 --> 01:30:41.788 Been working that for I don't know how long. Not if something is used for a day anymore 01:30:44.188 --> 01:30:47.680 that don't look good and everybody else in it's full time so I'm coming after it full time. 01:30:49.828 --> 01:30:51.828 Thank you. 01:30:52.709 --> 01:30:54.309 Thank you. Ernest Williams. 01:31:07.229 --> 01:31:10.290 Yeah. I think I got a 01:31:11.269 --> 01:31:13.269 couple of questions but you can't 01:31:13.349 --> 01:31:16.290 you can't talk back to me. I ain't going to waste my time. 01:31:17.709 --> 01:31:19.709 The other thing is that bourbon, you know, 01:31:22.709 --> 01:31:24.709 I served on the board that for 22 years. 01:31:26.589 --> 01:31:28.589 I also served housing the commissioner 01:31:29.309 --> 01:31:31.309 board for about eight years. 01:31:32.629 --> 01:31:34.629 But they barely approved 01:31:36.269 --> 01:31:38.269 that building before you guys decided to go buy it. 01:31:40.310 --> 01:31:42.310 Did you have a contract to go over there and look at that? 01:31:42.870 --> 01:31:44.870 They that 01:31:46.710 --> 01:31:48.710 if you bring along the 12 it might go down and, and, 01:31:51.550 --> 01:31:53.550 and you're talking about splitting 01:31:55.270 --> 01:31:57.270 how many me and somebody remind me 01:31:58.230 --> 01:32:00.230 how many how many million these guys trying to charge you. 01:32:01.590 --> 01:32:03.590 40, 42 point some million dollars. 01:32:07.390 --> 01:32:09.390 Look if you guys wait another 01:32:11.910 --> 01:32:14.390 42 years my grandsons 01:32:14.390 --> 01:32:16.390 are going to be graduating from architecture school 01:32:17.310 --> 01:32:19.310 and I have a little chapel in that 01:32:21.990 --> 01:32:23.590 come on. Yeah. 01:32:24.390 --> 01:32:26.390 And you know what? 01:32:27.270 --> 01:32:29.270 I'm really glad he's sitting over there 01:32:30.631 --> 01:32:32.631 because he wasn't he's talking about 01:32:34.351 --> 01:32:36.351 he said the spirit man was standing up here telling you 01:32:37.951 --> 01:32:39.951 I thought you kind of caught on a little bit too, 01:32:40.711 --> 01:32:42.711 because 42 years I got a granddaughter with sake 01:32:45.631 --> 01:32:47.631 and my time she gets 50 01:32:50.710 --> 01:32:52.871 woo! Wow. And you're going to pay that kind of money 01:32:53.711 --> 01:32:55.711 for that raggedy building and this raggedy. 01:32:56.551 --> 01:32:58.551 Has any of you ever been over there in that building? 01:32:59.631 --> 01:33:02.310 You know, I had a friend of mine, he's an attorney over there, 01:33:03.391 --> 01:33:05.391 and I used to go up and see him a lot. 01:33:05.671 --> 01:33:07.671 And sometime down the road, sometime he wouldn't. 01:33:09.991 --> 01:33:11.991 And now, you guys, my tax money, I'm I'm a little angry 01:33:15.271 --> 01:33:17.271 about my tax money being thrown around like this more 01:33:21.152 --> 01:33:23.152 I can't. 01:33:23.672 --> 01:33:26.352 It's nothing I can do about it. I only got one vote, but I got a large family. 01:33:30.392 --> 01:33:32.952 Uh huh. Everybody in New Jersey don't. 01:33:35.632 --> 01:33:37.632 Uh huh. She's part of my family. 01:33:37.832 --> 01:33:39.832 And I'm going to have a discussion with her. 01:33:40.472 --> 01:33:42.472 She's got ten grandkids, 01:33:43.352 --> 01:33:45.352 and one day they're going to be able to vote. 01:33:45.872 --> 01:33:47.872 And I tell you, I hope they vote 01:33:49.720 --> 01:33:51.720 to not let the council 01:33:51.912 --> 01:33:53.912 be so spend our money. 01:33:55.432 --> 01:33:57.432 I mean, I know I know this is tempting. 01:33:59.312 --> 01:34:01.312 You know, you're sitting up there on the dais and 01:34:03.872 --> 01:34:06.432 I used to sit on the commission, and they contracts would come in that millions of dollars. 01:34:09.752 --> 01:34:11.553 But you know what? It's not your money. 01:34:13.153 --> 01:34:15.153 Thank you, mark stebbins. 01:34:20.473 --> 01:34:22.473 I didn't really intend 01:34:22.553 --> 01:34:24.553 to speak on this item since it was a fait accompli. 01:34:29.513 --> 01:34:31.513 You know, the council council voted 01:34:32.673 --> 01:34:34.673 almost none of you 01:34:35.113 --> 01:34:37.113 had the good sense to be on the council at that time. 01:34:38.433 --> 01:34:40.433 But you voted in violation of the bond act in closed session 01:34:41.553 --> 01:34:43.553 to buy this building, 01:34:44.730 --> 01:34:46.730 and you were sold by a former city manager 01:34:47.953 --> 01:34:50.553 on the project with the idea that the building cost 14 million, 01:34:52.553 --> 01:34:54.553 and you'd only have to put 11 million into it to fix it up. 01:34:56.730 --> 01:34:58.730 Yeah, right. 01:34:58.473 --> 01:35:00.473 So now it's 65 million 01:35:01.834 --> 01:35:03.834 and raising it. 01:35:08.340 --> 01:35:10.340 It's really not too late 01:35:10.740 --> 01:35:12.740 to back out of it. 01:35:13.274 --> 01:35:15.274 It's not too late 01:35:16.114 --> 01:35:18.114 to use good sense, 01:35:19.434 --> 01:35:22.434 despite what it seems you can probably sell it again to some sucker from out of town 01:35:25.354 --> 01:35:26.954 for maybe you know, ten or 11 million and get most of your cost back 01:35:33.340 --> 01:35:35.994 and I just want to say one other thing on the previous item and that was 01:35:39.994 --> 01:35:41.994 what the Bible says 01:35:43.740 --> 01:35:45.794 the wise man built this house upon the rock, 01:35:48.340 --> 01:35:50.340 not in a flood zone. 01:35:54.835 --> 01:35:56.835 That concludes their public comment. 01:35:57.350 --> 01:35:59.955 Thank you, Vice Admiral Ghazi. Thank you, Mr. Massey. 01:35:59.995 --> 01:36:01.995 I have a couple of questions for you 01:36:04.715 --> 01:36:06.715 based upon what I've heard some of the people 01:36:08.275 --> 01:36:10.275 who voted us into these positions, 01:36:11.515 --> 01:36:13.515 just for a point of clarification, then, 01:36:14.835 --> 01:36:16.835 what was the original estimate 01:36:18.275 --> 01:36:20.275 for renovations of the towers. 01:36:25.155 --> 01:36:27.155 I think when I was looking back in those notes, 01:36:28.350 --> 01:36:30.350 the number 23 or $27 million comes to mind. 01:36:32.750 --> 01:36:33.795 Yeah. I think I remember 25 million, 01:36:36.115 --> 01:36:38.115 but I ask that for a reason. 01:36:38.315 --> 01:36:40.315 And what why has it ballooned so much? 01:36:41.356 --> 01:36:43.356 What are the reasons why construction costs, renovation 01:36:45.476 --> 01:36:47.476 costs, why is everything gone up so dramatically? 01:36:51.360 --> 01:36:53.760 I think there's a couple of different things that play into that. 01:36:55.556 --> 01:36:57.556 So I think the original, original concept 01:36:59.436 --> 01:37:01.436 was just to simply pick up everybody and just 01:37:04.196 --> 01:37:06.836 dump them in there. They had no thought to say some of the things that we're doing. 01:37:09.396 --> 01:37:11.596 Like you mentioned the gentleman that said the elevators don't work well. 01:37:13.276 --> 01:37:15.276 We're replacing the elevator system. 01:37:16.156 --> 01:37:18.156 You know, there was no thought into replacing the H VAC system. 01:37:20.396 --> 01:37:22.396 Well, the H back is I think it's older than me, 01:37:23.596 --> 01:37:26.596 you know, and it's not efficient. It's, you know, like a lot of units 01:37:27.396 --> 01:37:29.396 that are decades old, you can't find replacement parts. 01:37:31.237 --> 01:37:33.237 So we have a complete replacement of systems 01:37:35.117 --> 01:37:37.117 that was not envisioned in that original concept. 01:37:39.517 --> 01:37:41.517 There's no way you can do what we're doing for 25 million. 01:37:45.357 --> 01:37:47.357 So, you know, 01:37:48.477 --> 01:37:51.277 that's one area, right so scope change 01:37:52.797 --> 01:37:55.717 the other is you know you've heard me up here talk about escalating costs, right? 01:37:56.477 --> 01:37:58.477 So covered labor 01:37:59.557 --> 01:38:01.557 costs have gone up, materials costs have gone up. 01:38:02.917 --> 01:38:05.877 It's hard to get materials. You know, someone was telling me if you're trying to get 01:38:07.597 --> 01:38:09.597 pipe for water systems, that's hard to get right now 01:38:10.717 --> 01:38:12.717 and anything steel. 01:38:13.917 --> 01:38:15.917 And then you add on top of that the water, right? 01:38:16.997 --> 01:38:18.997 So now we have escalating oil costs, which, 01:38:21.358 --> 01:38:23.358 you know, impacts anything that, you know, pavement. 01:38:25.518 --> 01:38:28.318 You know, it just never could have foreseen any of those different factors. 01:38:31.158 --> 01:38:33.158 But they all play into this. OK. 01:38:34.958 --> 01:38:36.958 So so my next question is 01:38:39.780 --> 01:38:41.780 regarding this current historic 01:38:41.718 --> 01:38:43.718 building that I hope it stays here forever. 01:38:46.878 --> 01:38:49.780 What departments are currently housed in this building? 01:38:51.518 --> 01:38:54.198 Oh, all right. So we have city managers, office city attorneys, 01:38:57.278 --> 01:38:59.278 city clerks, council chambers, 01:39:00.118 --> 01:39:02.118 Office of Violence Prevention, 01:39:06.878 --> 01:39:08.878 what's downstairs, Mayor, 01:39:10.559 --> 01:39:13.559 is ESD I was like, help me, help me out. 01:39:14.839 --> 01:39:16.479 Multiple departments. And then we have across the street to the permit center. 01:39:17.759 --> 01:39:20.790 So I mean, that's where I'm getting so in this building, we have a handful of departments. 01:39:22.999 --> 01:39:24.999 Where are our other departments? 01:39:25.319 --> 01:39:27.159 Yeah. So they're at 400 East Main. 01:39:27.999 --> 01:39:29.999 We've called it the old WaMu building. 01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:32.119 So we've paid. Rent what was that? 43 million. 01:39:33.439 --> 01:39:35.959 And then we went through bankruptcy. Councilmember Canterford, do you remember that was at like 33. 01:39:39.959 --> 01:39:42.679 But during bankruptcy it had ballooned. So yeah, and we've continued to pay for the lease. 01:39:45.359 --> 01:39:47.359 So I mean those are ongoing costs that will soon be going 01:39:48.359 --> 01:39:50.390 away. OK, and who will occupy New City, the new buildings? 01:39:54.239 --> 01:39:55.719 It's going to be pretty much everyone except for the police department. 01:39:58.639 --> 01:40:00.639 We still will have the public works corporation yard, 01:40:01.560 --> 01:40:03.560 but all departments are going to go over there. 01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:05.600 It's a true consolidation of departments and. 01:40:05.920 --> 01:40:08.680 Approximately, I don't know, city manager might be able to answer this. 01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:10.680 How many employees I mean, how many employees 01:40:10.840 --> 01:40:12.840 are going to be occupying those two buildings? 01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:15.880 The hundred and 20 529,000. 01:40:17.360 --> 01:40:20.160 I wrote it down square feet, 619 square feet. 01:40:23.160 --> 01:40:25.280 I can't recall. I think I have notes for how many vehicles, 01:40:26.760 --> 01:40:29.720 but I don't recall how many employees. So pretty much pretty much all are employed. 01:40:31.400 --> 01:40:33.400 And, and the reason why I'm asking all this is because Mr. 01:40:35.800 --> 01:40:37.800 Stebbins said, Oh, it's not too late, 01:40:38.240 --> 01:40:40.240 you know, and our lease 01:40:41.160 --> 01:40:43.160 for 400 east main 01:40:44.480 --> 01:40:46.480 due are we, do we have two more years on that now. 01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:50.320 So it's coming up. We've extended it 01:40:50.361 --> 01:40:52.361 a little bit to get us through the construction season, but 01:40:53.441 --> 01:40:55.521 it's less than a year. Because this was supposed to be done, 01:40:57.521 --> 01:41:00.521 if I remember correctly, we were supposed to have this done in 20, 23 like the beginning of 20, 23 01:41:03.761 --> 01:41:05.761 because I was like, Oh, I'll just miss it. 01:41:07.100 --> 01:41:09.100 So that was the original estimates and, 01:41:10.201 --> 01:41:12.201 and I bring up all these things because I get it. 01:41:13.201 --> 01:41:15.201 I get that this number is, is astronomical. 01:41:17.410 --> 01:41:19.410 You think about it 01:41:19.801 --> 01:41:21.801 but you think about two. 01:41:22.241 --> 01:41:24.241 You won't have to go from this building 01:41:24.601 --> 01:41:26.601 to the annex to downtown to 400 each. 01:41:27.681 --> 01:41:29.681 May you know, you won't have to then move around 01:41:32.281 --> 01:41:34.481 because I know people who have complained to me, you know, 01:41:34.481 --> 01:41:37.201 I showed up at City Hall to do this and then they told me I had to walk over here 01:41:37.801 --> 01:41:40.441 and then I had to drive over there. But they'll be able to go to everything 01:41:41.122 --> 01:41:43.122 at that location, correct? 01:41:43.202 --> 01:41:46.200 Yes. Outside site. Of police. Department libraries. 01:41:47.820 --> 01:41:49.242 Animal services. Yeah, they'll be OK. 01:41:50.122 --> 01:41:52.722 Couple of one offs. And I do have questions about the differences 01:41:54.122 --> 01:41:56.122 in the bid amount and the engineer's estimate. 01:41:58.322 --> 01:42:00.322 So the engineer's estimate on the first part. 01:42:02.962 --> 01:42:04.962 So let me go back to it on the base bid amount 01:42:08.282 --> 01:42:11.200 so the company in El Dorado, his hills, that one was higher. 01:42:14.820 --> 01:42:16.820 What does that attributed to do you know, 01:42:18.562 --> 01:42:20.562 they met all the requirements for 01:42:22.200 --> 01:42:23.802 what you've asked for. They weren't non-responsive on anything, correct? 01:42:25.802 --> 01:42:27.802 Everything was regular in all respects. Everything. 01:42:27.962 --> 01:42:29.962 So was there any one thing that you could see that was 01:42:33.603 --> 01:42:35.603 much higher than that? 01:42:35.643 --> 01:42:37.523 The engineer's estimate? Because I'm figuring all the different line 01:42:38.403 --> 01:42:40.403 items that you have in it and you know, 500,000, 01:42:42.443 --> 01:42:44.443 they're 200,000 here. 01:42:46.203 --> 01:42:49.123 50,000 there. I know it seems like the bids aren't tight, 01:42:49.563 --> 01:42:52.243 but these are actually very tight bids. Given the magnitude of this project, there is no outliers. 01:42:54.683 --> 01:42:56.683 It all adds up to where contractors willing to take risk 01:42:58.803 --> 01:43:00.803 or not on a job like this and obviously all their subs. 01:43:02.430 --> 01:43:04.203 This is really complex. A lot of disciplines are being brought in for this project. 01:43:07.300 --> 01:43:09.300 And in terms of employees, I know that 01:43:09.963 --> 01:43:11.963 we have a quota that is in effect for this. 01:43:13.643 --> 01:43:15.643 So we will have local folks working on this project. 01:43:18.243 --> 01:43:20.243 We always have as part of the pre con 01:43:21.164 --> 01:43:23.764 as soon as we get to that point. The precautions are very intense that are highly focused 01:43:25.804 --> 01:43:27.964 on sea WTI. And we will be zeroed in on that, dialed in, making sure 01:43:30.284 --> 01:43:32.284 that we have that 01:43:32.884 --> 01:43:35.204 that is correctly reported and those people are working on the project. 01:43:38.440 --> 01:43:40.440 Much to all the work of having 01:43:40.284 --> 01:43:42.284 our pre-qualified contractors with their approval. 01:43:43.204 --> 01:43:45.204 So that was that was fantastic. 01:43:45.724 --> 01:43:48.404 Thank you. OK. And then going to the, 01:43:50.400 --> 01:43:52.964 the second the add alternate to the engineer's estimate was 4 million. 01:43:56.204 --> 01:43:58.204 This is about $1,000,000 less. 01:43:58.284 --> 01:44:00.284 A little more than $1,000,000 less. 01:44:00.564 --> 01:44:02.564 Where is the second part under it 01:44:03.724 --> 01:44:05.724 that I think it was $600,000 and they're at $275,000 01:44:11.285 --> 01:44:13.285 for the emergency responders radio communication systems. 01:44:15.565 --> 01:44:17.565 Again, if you look I mean that's 25% difference. 01:44:20.565 --> 01:44:22.565 Why such a big difference. 01:44:24.205 --> 01:44:26.205 I don't have an explanation for that. 01:44:26.325 --> 01:44:28.325 OK well I'm glad it's lower exactly. 01:44:28.685 --> 01:44:31.525 You just as they come aboard. Oh yes it is 4 million after all. 01:44:32.965 --> 01:44:34.965 No we this is great because again this is something 01:44:37.365 --> 01:44:39.365 that we looked at doing in the future, a future project. 01:44:40.565 --> 01:44:43.205 But we have walls open. We have everything going in. 01:44:43.325 --> 01:44:45.325 This gives us the opportunity to install that infrastructure 01:44:46.885 --> 01:44:49.605 with little disruption. So yeah, this is the great number. 01:44:51.925 --> 01:44:53.925 And for those of you that weren't in there once 01:44:54.245 --> 01:44:56.645 most of the people were cleared out, we had a priority setting meeting in there 01:44:58.325 --> 01:45:00.325 and we walked this was, I don't know, four or five years ago 01:45:02.486 --> 01:45:04.686 that we walked that building. They said, Oh, over here will be 01:45:04.926 --> 01:45:07.846 this and over here will be that. And I will admit I couldn't envision it. 01:45:09.886 --> 01:45:11.406 I couldn't see what we were being told because of the condition of it. 01:45:14.166 --> 01:45:16.166 I was actually a little surprised at the condition, 01:45:18.846 --> 01:45:20.846 but I then looked at the plans for it 01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:24.600 I know that again, I know that this is a really large number, 01:45:26.166 --> 01:45:28.166 but I don't know where else we would go, to be quite frank, 01:45:30.860 --> 01:45:32.860 where else we could go in this in this city and this building. 01:45:34.460 --> 01:45:36.460 Again, while it is beautiful and ornate and architecturally 01:45:38.686 --> 01:45:40.686 significant, there are significant issues 01:45:43.926 --> 01:45:45.926 with this building that I don't think I can disclose, 01:45:48.246 --> 01:45:50.246 but there are many issues with this building, 01:45:51.767 --> 01:45:54.407 like when we're freezing up here. But it's because they have 01:45:54.407 --> 01:45:56.407 to turn on the AC four days in advance to get it to cool down 01:46:00.607 --> 01:46:02.647 the people that are in here that know how cold it can get in this room. 01:46:04.967 --> 01:46:07.487 Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. So anyway, that's it for me. 01:46:07.807 --> 01:46:09.807 Thank you so much, Marcel Massie, for asking my question. 01:46:10.700 --> 01:46:12.700 Questions. Councilmember Lentz. 01:46:13.327 --> 01:46:15.407 Well, and vice mayor, because 01:46:15.527 --> 01:46:16.927 you brought up most of my comments because I was on the council 01:46:18.327 --> 01:46:20.327 when we purchased these buildings. 01:46:20.527 --> 01:46:22.527 And it was we analyze this a lot because 01:46:24.470 --> 01:46:26.470 I think our first choice would have been to do work 01:46:26.887 --> 01:46:29.647 on this city council building. But we also knew this building. 01:46:30.847 --> 01:46:32.847 The cost was excessive, obviously. 01:46:33.487 --> 01:46:35.487 And also we wanted to bring 01:46:36.527 --> 01:46:38.527 our city staff together and we couldn't do that here. 01:46:40.688 --> 01:46:42.688 And the East Main Building lease was going to run out. 01:46:43.968 --> 01:46:45.968 We're paying a lot of money for that building. 01:46:46.648 --> 01:46:48.648 A lot was lost in the bankruptcy and that leases expiring. 01:46:50.928 --> 01:46:53.168 So we're going to be saving that. That's an ongoing cost that we will be losing, 01:46:55.688 --> 01:46:57.688 which is a good thing once we get to the new buildings. 01:46:59.128 --> 01:47:01.128 And I know it wasn't an easy decision 01:47:01.488 --> 01:47:03.488 for us as a council to make this decision 01:47:04.800 --> 01:47:06.800 and originally when we bought these buildings. 01:47:07.480 --> 01:47:09.608 But now yes, we could probably make a profit off these buildings. 01:47:10.928 --> 01:47:12.928 But then what? You know, we we have to move forward 01:47:15.328 --> 01:47:17.328 just for the betterment for the future. 01:47:17.528 --> 01:47:19.528 Council's future city staff. 01:47:20.848 --> 01:47:22.848 There is concern going down. 01:47:22.888 --> 01:47:25.448 They're going to be more and more. And I'm I'm glad this contractor is willing to commit to 01:47:28.480 --> 01:47:30.480 these prices because they're moving faster. 01:47:30.209 --> 01:47:32.209 You can even put a fence in your yard now without it, 01:47:33.490 --> 01:47:35.969 they put in contingencies on there. The lumber goes up. 01:47:36.890 --> 01:47:38.890 So I know it's a lot of money. 01:47:39.449 --> 01:47:41.449 I know it's a lot of money for all of us to swallow. 01:47:43.129 --> 01:47:45.249 But I think once we all get there together and all the staff is together 01:47:47.449 --> 01:47:49.449 working together, I see nothing but positive. 01:47:50.569 --> 01:47:52.569 I think the efficiency of our city will be so much better 01:47:54.129 --> 01:47:56.129 and there won't be the commute, 01:47:56.969 --> 01:47:58.969 the transport between buildings. 01:47:59.449 --> 01:48:01.449 And I just I see nothing but positive other than the cost. 01:48:04.289 --> 01:48:06.289 And I think it's a it's a move forward 01:48:07.529 --> 01:48:09.529 and move forward fast before our costs go up again. 01:48:11.129 --> 01:48:13.129 So thank you for all the work you've done on this 01:48:14.329 --> 01:48:16.329 and the rest of your staff have so I know 01:48:16.529 --> 01:48:18.529 it's been a lot of work and thank you for everything. 01:48:18.809 --> 01:48:20.809 You brought up few council or vice mayor figures 01:48:21.530 --> 01:48:23.530 because I was there too for the tour over there and 01:48:25.500 --> 01:48:27.900 we didn't picture it. So were you Councilmember? Right. 01:48:28.650 --> 01:48:31.330 And it's exciting though that we're moving to this and I'm glad 01:48:32.100 --> 01:48:34.100 that land is available for future parking too. 01:48:35.210 --> 01:48:37.210 So thank you and thank you. 01:48:37.730 --> 01:48:39.730 Thank you. Councilmember Cannava. 01:48:41.290 --> 01:48:43.770 So I just have to we did have an estimate of what it would cost to remodel 01:48:45.730 --> 01:48:47.170 this one. And I remember it was in the was it as high as 60 million? 01:48:50.730 --> 01:48:52.730 I thought I was in the thirties to an. Old. 01:48:53.770 --> 01:48:56.210 Same old numbers. 60 million to 27. 01:48:57.100 --> 01:48:59.610 Yeah. Because I mean the things that they were talking about as far as health issues 01:49:01.570 --> 01:49:04.170 with the buildings, you don't want to talk about rat infestation molds and things like that please on the rats. 01:49:08.650 --> 01:49:10.530 So I mean not for people, for people that are saying 01:49:11.691 --> 01:49:14.571 we're trying to pull something over their eyes. I mean this has been vetted and we've also 01:49:16.291 --> 01:49:18.291 we had the proposal to actually turn this historic city hall. 01:49:21.110 --> 01:49:23.371 Can you kind of explain to that? Because I mean, this has kind of been a process. 01:49:24.171 --> 01:49:26.171 I mean, the city manager. Can you do that? 01:49:26.291 --> 01:49:28.771 So this has been ongoing. I mean, so it's not like, you know, 01:49:30.811 --> 01:49:32.811 we had the RFP or transfer proposal. 01:49:33.910 --> 01:49:34.691 Yeah. We issued a request for proposals for this building, pre-COVID. 01:49:37.891 --> 01:49:39.891 Maybe we released it 01:49:40.531 --> 01:49:42.531 a month or two before COVID was 01:49:45.451 --> 01:49:48.910 stated as being the pandemic. And then everything's shut down. 01:49:49.891 --> 01:49:51.891 And we received zero bids, which we expected 01:49:52.451 --> 01:49:54.451 because people are focused on other things 01:49:54.691 --> 01:49:56.651 because of the pandemic. So at some point 01:49:57.910 --> 01:49:59.910 in the near future, we'll will need to revisit that process 01:50:01.252 --> 01:50:03.252 and figure out how to repurpose this facility 01:50:05.972 --> 01:50:07.972 with some part of this facility anyway in the future. 01:50:09.692 --> 01:50:11.692 OK, so the savings on not having to remodel this one 01:50:13.412 --> 01:50:15.412 almost covers the cost of the remodel 01:50:16.920 --> 01:50:18.920 for number one, having a newer building, newer services, 01:50:19.852 --> 01:50:21.852 healthier employees for healthier employees 01:50:23.212 --> 01:50:25.452 and happier employees. Yeah, it's going to it's going to allow us 01:50:26.120 --> 01:50:27.732 to provide more effective service to the public 01:50:28.572 --> 01:50:31.920 because we're going to be co-located all of the departments co-located together. 01:50:32.372 --> 01:50:34.372 So we'll be able to respond quicker. 01:50:35.920 --> 01:50:37.452 We'll be able to do more joint strategizing and problem solving and 01:50:43.692 --> 01:50:45.372 the other thing is that this building is at a point where we are already 01:50:47.612 --> 01:50:49.612 since somebody has already started talking about it, 01:50:49.892 --> 01:50:51.892 we're we're we're being cited by OSHA on a regular basis 01:50:54.813 --> 01:50:56.813 because this building is becoming not habitable anymore. 01:50:58.693 --> 01:51:00.693 So that's only going to continue 01:51:03.813 --> 01:51:05.813 last winter we could not heat the building. 01:51:06.453 --> 01:51:08.453 I, I don't see how that's going to not be the case again 01:51:09.613 --> 01:51:11.413 this coming winter. So, so I I thank Director El-Masri and the team. 01:51:16.173 --> 01:51:18.173 They've, they've really have 01:51:20.253 --> 01:51:22.693 done a good job, in my view, of guiding us to this point and trying to make the best. 01:51:24.813 --> 01:51:27.253 I mean, you know, the CFO's office is working in tandem with the public works in 01:51:30.773 --> 01:51:32.773 an a real effective partnership to make certain that we do what 01:51:33.973 --> 01:51:35.973 what we're proposing to do and the most cost effective way 01:51:38.853 --> 01:51:40.853 and this is just going to set the city up 01:51:42.694 --> 01:51:44.694 for the next 20 to 25 years in terms of being able 01:51:46.134 --> 01:51:48.134 to optimize service delivery to the public. 01:51:48.574 --> 01:51:50.574 And that was my my reason of my comment 01:51:50.614 --> 01:51:52.614 is because the organization well we made stronger. 01:51:53.494 --> 01:51:55.734 I mean so it's an investment in the future of the city of Stockton. 01:51:56.374 --> 01:51:58.374 I mean, it's a lot of money. And I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't 01:51:59.454 --> 01:52:01.454 throw it around haphazardly, but I mean, 01:52:01.774 --> 01:52:03.774 I think the benefit again here outweighs the risk. 01:52:04.374 --> 01:52:06.374 So I agree. All right. Thank you. 01:52:07.694 --> 01:52:09.694 Councilmember Jurek thank you, Mayor. 01:52:09.854 --> 01:52:12.694 When was this building built? I love this building. What was the bill? 1926. 01:52:14.540 --> 01:52:16.540 What was the population around that time? 01:52:18.540 --> 01:52:19.694 Small. Yeah. But note no small but large. 01:52:22.174 --> 01:52:24.174 There's a building large for the types. 01:52:24.374 --> 01:52:27.134 Yeah. I mean this large. For the times this. Building was built to accommodate a very small city. 01:52:29.614 --> 01:52:31.614 And here we are, one like to me, one of the biggest disservice, 01:52:33.415 --> 01:52:35.935 smaller bodies that one of the services that we do is we are all over the place. 01:52:38.415 --> 01:52:40.455 And I think that's one of the huge benefits of relocating or relocating 01:52:42.615 --> 01:52:45.255 down there. Remind me on that building. 01:52:45.455 --> 01:52:47.455 Is it A Class A, B or C building? 01:52:48.735 --> 01:52:50.815 You've asked me this before. I know. I think it's a class. 01:52:52.415 --> 01:52:54.415 That sounds about right, but I could follow up with you. 01:52:55.295 --> 01:52:57.295 And what that means is of Class A office space, 01:53:00.455 --> 01:53:02.455 they'll all even just ignore downtown 01:53:02.575 --> 01:53:04.695 just in the city of Stockton. Are there very is there very much 01:53:05.495 --> 01:53:07.495 class office space in the city of Stockton? 01:53:07.775 --> 01:53:10.255 So you work downtown, you? Yeah, in. Downtown. 01:53:10.295 --> 01:53:12.535 I think there's like one building that that would be considered class. 01:53:12.695 --> 01:53:14.695 So like I wasn't on the council when they made this purchase, 01:53:16.815 --> 01:53:19.575 but I remember looking at the sale because that's kind of 01:53:19.575 --> 01:53:21.575 my eight of five and thinking that it was a 01:53:22.216 --> 01:53:24.216 pretty good deal at the time. 01:53:24.496 --> 01:53:27.560 I know that those costs are definitely going up and to, to me it makes sense. 01:53:30.160 --> 01:53:32.696 I, I know that the OSHA complaint said the city manager mentioned 01:53:35.976 --> 01:53:37.976 we have to mitigate those issues, which mean that 01:53:38.616 --> 01:53:40.616 mitigate means pay so we'd have to pay 01:53:42.216 --> 01:53:44.216 to resolve the issues and paying are aren't free. 01:53:44.936 --> 01:53:46.936 We know the costs are there so there must be thrown bad money 01:53:48.656 --> 01:53:50.656 on top of something that isn't going to solve a problem. 01:53:51.616 --> 01:53:53.616 So I'm all for looking at the repurpose of this 01:53:54.936 --> 01:53:56.936 and it makes sense to me and that's a good location to go. 01:53:58.160 --> 01:54:00.160 It's if you're coming into the city of Stockton, 01:54:00.376 --> 01:54:02.296 it's what you would see. And if we make that improvement 01:54:02.616 --> 01:54:04.616 like that whole strip at some point 01:54:05.376 --> 01:54:07.376 when you when you come in, Stockton is going to be 01:54:07.416 --> 01:54:09.736 the first thing you see. And it's we're essentially telling the community like, 01:54:12.777 --> 01:54:14.777 we want you, we want stopped and this is the image 01:54:15.257 --> 01:54:17.657 we're going to want you to have. And it's better than some of the imagery that we heard of 01:54:20.170 --> 01:54:22.170 what people currently see when they're coming in 01:54:23.170 --> 01:54:24.737 in that area. So to me, this is a good project. 01:54:26.970 --> 01:54:28.457 It makes sense financially. It makes sense for the community. 01:54:29.577 --> 01:54:31.857 Yeah, I agree with my peers. It is a big cost, but I don't see it 01:54:34.177 --> 01:54:36.177 I don't see us resolving the issues 01:54:36.737 --> 01:54:39.257 that are before us and have been this isn't an overnight decision. 01:54:40.497 --> 01:54:42.497 I don't see it as resolving the issues of the better part of the last 01:54:43.657 --> 01:54:45.657 probably two decades with this building, 01:54:46.497 --> 01:54:48.497 any better than what you and your staff have done 01:54:49.570 --> 01:54:51.970 and preparing that one. So yeah, I'm happy to support it and you mentioned 01:54:54.777 --> 01:54:57.970 25 to 30 years. I think that building's got a whole lot 01:54:57.217 --> 01:54:59.217 more life than 25 to 30 years. 01:54:59.617 --> 01:55:01.578 Just being conservative. I think that's about half conservative. 01:55:02.538 --> 01:55:04.538 So that's probably a 70 or 80 year building 01:55:06.218 --> 01:55:08.218 with and I don't know, no brainer for me. 01:55:09.218 --> 01:55:11.218 I think this is something I'm happy to support. 01:55:11.418 --> 01:55:12.978 Thank you. What's, what's our anticipated growth forecast growth 01:55:16.178 --> 01:55:18.178 over the next 20 to 30 years conservatively as a city. 01:55:19.578 --> 01:55:21.578 I mean the numbers that I've seen Mayor 01:55:22.738 --> 01:55:24.738 has Stockton growing from current 01:55:25.698 --> 01:55:27.698 through 20,000 people to maybe another five 01:55:28.858 --> 01:55:30.858 to 420,000 people in ten years or less so we're growing. 01:55:34.258 --> 01:55:36.258 And so this again allows us to get ready for that 01:55:37.858 --> 01:55:39.738 ongoing growth. This is it's time for us to do this in preparation 01:55:42.858 --> 01:55:44.498 for the future. And that was going to be my follow up question 01:55:45.618 --> 01:55:47.818 because the word I may have been mentioned a moment ago scalability. 01:55:49.658 --> 01:55:51.980 Yeah. And so with this transition does this meet 01:55:54.259 --> 01:55:56.259 our ne our needs to be able to scale 01:55:57.539 --> 01:55:59.539 to you know, in line with our anticipated growth. 01:56:00.979 --> 01:56:02.979 There is some flexibility in the buildings for that. Yes. 01:56:05.590 --> 01:56:06.619 Thank you. Casimir Walmsley. 01:56:07.179 --> 01:56:09.819 Thank you so much, Mayor. So just well, one does as a general comment, 01:56:12.699 --> 01:56:14.699 I know I understand that 01:56:14.779 --> 01:56:16.779 the scope of work changes and I understand the time. 01:56:18.579 --> 01:56:21.339 I understand the code, but culvert restraints, it has happened. 01:56:22.419 --> 01:56:25.179 I do understand the inflation. I do understand 01:56:26.579 --> 01:56:28.579 the need to downsize 01:56:29.219 --> 01:56:31.219 and centralize and make ensure that the city 01:56:33.539 --> 01:56:35.539 leaderships and departments are available to the community. 01:56:38.990 --> 01:56:40.990 I do have concern 01:56:40.940 --> 01:56:42.940 about how long this project has lingered. 01:56:44.100 --> 01:56:46.620 I mean, I think I made it really clear. I said, Mrs. 01:56:46.620 --> 01:56:49.100 Massey, I'm going to be looking at you when you 01:56:49.340 --> 01:56:51.340 if you come back and ask for some more money 01:56:51.500 --> 01:56:53.500 and here we are with some more money, 01:56:55.900 --> 01:56:57.900 so I'm a little a little troubled by that, 01:56:59.460 --> 01:57:01.460 only because it's hard for me 01:57:02.420 --> 01:57:04.420 when folks ask for things for parks. 01:57:04.900 --> 01:57:06.900 And I have to tell them no or tree trimmings, 01:57:07.380 --> 01:57:09.260 I have to say no. And here we are investing millions into this building. 01:57:13.260 --> 01:57:15.260 And so I'm looking for boots on the ground 01:57:16.900 --> 01:57:18.900 and shovels and lots of them. 01:57:19.900 --> 01:57:21.900 And very, very soon. 01:57:22.340 --> 01:57:24.340 I do want to bring up the C, 01:57:26.620 --> 01:57:28.620 the c, t a, 01:57:28.660 --> 01:57:30.660 I'm in the agreement moving forward. 01:57:32.301 --> 01:57:34.301 What does that look like? If you can give 01:57:34.501 --> 01:57:36.501 like a high level overview of what that means? 01:57:38.210 --> 01:57:40.210 And then also, what does that mean for 01:57:42.421 --> 01:57:44.421 potential subcontract subcontract hours that are local 01:57:46.781 --> 01:57:48.781 and ensuring that the citizens of Stockton also have boots 01:57:52.210 --> 01:57:54.210 on the ground with shovels in this very big project 01:57:56.581 --> 01:57:58.741 thank you. C, WTA, it's our Community Workforce Training Agreement. 01:58:00.781 --> 01:58:02.781 It was extended a couple of years ago. 01:58:02.981 --> 01:58:04.981 So the emphasis is getting 01:58:05.701 --> 01:58:07.701 access to local 01:58:07.981 --> 01:58:09.981 individuals who have skilled labor or apprentice 01:58:11.421 --> 01:58:13.421 apprenticeships, really tapping into ideally 01:58:15.541 --> 01:58:17.541 our Stockton market or greater San Joaquin area market. 01:58:19.461 --> 01:58:21.461 So this is the ability for our contractors 01:58:22.142 --> 01:58:24.142 to work with the various union halls to bring in folks. 01:58:26.222 --> 01:58:28.222 And really so we don't have them going over the hill 01:58:28.942 --> 01:58:30.942 or commuting and keeping families home 01:58:31.382 --> 01:58:33.382 and keeping our dollars home here. 01:58:33.542 --> 01:58:35.542 So originally, like I mentioned, 01:58:36.542 --> 01:58:38.542 we have a pre-construction meeting 01:58:38.622 --> 01:58:40.622 that's really involved and centralized focuses the CW to. 01:58:43.182 --> 01:58:45.942 So it's a little early for me to be able to speak to specifics about this contract, 01:58:48.620 --> 01:58:50.620 but that's going to be coming in really quick 01:58:50.982 --> 01:58:52.982 within the next few weeks here. 01:58:53.220 --> 01:58:55.220 OK, and so how will the community be informed. 01:58:59.942 --> 01:59:01.942 So really it's up to the contractor 01:59:03.342 --> 01:59:05.342 to do the legwork on this. 01:59:06.182 --> 01:59:08.182 So what I can do is provide 01:59:10.223 --> 01:59:12.223 maybe a council fact sheet update with information 01:59:14.230 --> 01:59:16.230 so that we can get it out to the community, 01:59:16.223 --> 01:59:18.223 so that we can have 01:59:19.623 --> 01:59:21.623 some guidance on how to reach our contractor. 01:59:22.943 --> 01:59:24.943 And I think that's really going to be the best course that I can offer at this time. 01:59:26.743 --> 01:59:28.183 Thank you. And that is very important. 01:59:30.143 --> 01:59:32.143 And my next question is 01:59:32.463 --> 01:59:34.463 whose responsibility is to to monitor 01:59:37.103 --> 01:59:39.103 these contracts so we can ensure 01:59:41.503 --> 01:59:43.503 that these opportunities 01:59:45.103 --> 01:59:47.103 are equitable 01:59:47.303 --> 01:59:49.303 and they take place within the community in 01:59:49.783 --> 01:59:51.783 a, you know, very intentional way. 01:59:52.863 --> 01:59:54.863 So whose responsibility is that to monitor? 01:59:55.543 --> 01:59:57.543 At the end of the day, it falls on our department. 01:59:57.783 --> 01:59:59.863 So we're supported by city manager's office and city attorney's office. 02:00:01.104 --> 02:00:03.104 But, you know, the buck stops here. 02:00:03.704 --> 02:00:05.704 So we have a team that's here to support 02:00:06.664 --> 02:00:08.664 us, our construction management company. So 02:00:12.344 --> 02:00:14.984 if I may, in addition, we have a biweekly Stockton stat meeting with Public Works. 02:00:18.544 --> 02:00:20.864 So we would just incorporate this project into that stat process, 02:00:23.640 --> 02:00:25.640 which would just be an additional layer on top of what 02:00:27.224 --> 02:00:29.704 the department is already working on in terms of internally 02:00:30.304 --> 02:00:32.304 as well as they don't have a construction manager 02:00:35.184 --> 02:00:37.944 on site as well. And that's a big part of the role of that entity. 02:00:40.144 --> 02:00:42.144 But we'll also stated. 02:00:42.424 --> 02:00:44.424 So would this contractor from El Dorado Hills also 02:00:47.544 --> 02:00:49.544 be responsible for the specific contractors 02:00:51.250 --> 02:00:53.250 that does that come back to the city and your department? 02:00:54.185 --> 02:00:56.185 They manage their various subcontractors 02:00:56.625 --> 02:00:58.625 and step consultants. 02:00:59.185 --> 02:01:01.185 But we will monitor to ensure 02:01:01.865 --> 02:01:03.865 that local is assessable. 02:01:05.385 --> 02:01:07.385 We look at it holistically comprehensive. 02:01:08.250 --> 02:01:10.250 OK, I just want to make sure and then as we're discussing 02:01:12.825 --> 02:01:15.305 a lot of my questions is to ensure that my residents and constituents 02:01:17.785 --> 02:01:19.785 don't come ask me because they're not going to as 02:01:19.905 --> 02:01:21.905 you are, they're going to be asking me. 02:01:22.345 --> 02:01:24.345 So I want to be very intentional 02:01:25.265 --> 02:01:27.265 in the line of questions that I have. 02:01:27.665 --> 02:01:29.665 And then my last question is 02:01:30.785 --> 02:01:32.785 you talked about downsizing 02:01:33.905 --> 02:01:35.905 other buildings within the city. 02:01:36.825 --> 02:01:38.825 And so do we have any foreseeable or 02:01:43.266 --> 02:01:45.266 views of potentially maybe 02:01:45.786 --> 02:01:47.786 sharing, upselling other buildings? 02:01:49.306 --> 02:01:51.306 Like how are we going to 02:01:51.386 --> 02:01:53.386 is there a way that we can recap ourselves or, 02:01:55.426 --> 02:01:57.426 you know, kind of rebuild back or are funds 02:01:59.386 --> 02:02:01.386 that we're spending in a very huge way? 02:02:03.426 --> 02:02:05.986 The last I mean, that's a great question that's starting to get outside 02:02:07.106 --> 02:02:08.866 of my wheelhouse. So city manager. 02:02:12.586 --> 02:02:14.546 I think the savings that you'll realize here will be. 02:02:16.706 --> 02:02:18.706 Current lease payment savings is primarily will be the savings 02:02:21.186 --> 02:02:23.186 will ultimately be able to 02:02:23.506 --> 02:02:25.506 to measure productivity savings at some point as well. 02:02:26.346 --> 02:02:28.346 But but there will be lots of productivity savings. 02:02:30.227 --> 02:02:32.227 But the real immediate hard dollars would be 02:02:34.587 --> 02:02:36.347 not making lease payments it to current landlords. 02:02:38.867 --> 02:02:40.867 We would be able to 02:02:41.787 --> 02:02:43.787 support ourselves without having to lease real estate 02:02:44.587 --> 02:02:47.670 throughout the city. And I think that that's a very important number 02:02:49.227 --> 02:02:52.270 for the community moving forward. So maybe we can revisit that after the project 02:02:54.707 --> 02:02:56.707 has been completely finalized of how much money 02:02:58.827 --> 02:03:00.827 the residents will have saved moving forward. 02:03:02.587 --> 02:03:04.587 And I think that that completes my questions. 02:03:05.947 --> 02:03:07.947 Thanks. Thank you. Councilmember. Right. 02:03:08.747 --> 02:03:10.907 Yeah. Just really quickly I know that one of our speakers spoke to the homeless 02:03:13.987 --> 02:03:16.427 that are currently living in the area. And I just want to speak out 02:03:16.907 --> 02:03:18.907 about all we're doing in that area. 02:03:20.668 --> 02:03:23.588 We've got a lot going on. Citywide Town Center Studios is almost complete 02:03:28.268 --> 02:03:30.268 and that's I forget how many units over there. 02:03:31.188 --> 02:03:33.188 We have a couple of entities working on 02:03:35.708 --> 02:03:37.708 Project Home key applications, I believe 02:03:39.108 --> 02:03:41.228 August 1st is the deadline to submit for those. 02:03:43.508 --> 02:03:45.868 I don't immediately recall. But yeah. 02:03:46.508 --> 02:03:48.508 At the next presentation or the one after that, 02:03:50.680 --> 02:03:52.680 you can ask that question. Right. And many others and. 02:03:52.708 --> 02:03:54.708 Some of that, you know, some of that is upcoming. 02:03:55.508 --> 02:03:57.508 You know, we we have a safe camping safe parking proposal 02:03:59.588 --> 02:04:01.588 that is tentatively scheduled to come online this summer. 02:04:04.588 --> 02:04:06.588 So it's not like we're not doing anything. 02:04:06.988 --> 02:04:09.228 We're actually doing quite a bit. There's an RFP out there 02:04:09.748 --> 02:04:12.549 to build additional shelter space where the county's putting forward 02:04:13.589 --> 02:04:15.589 $6 million in the city is a for infrastructure. 02:04:17.109 --> 02:04:19.109 And the city is putting 3 million forward 02:04:19.189 --> 02:04:21.189 for ongoing expenses. 02:04:21.309 --> 02:04:24.189 So I really don't want to hear. That we're not doing anything because we're doing a lot 02:04:26.349 --> 02:04:28.229 and staff is working very hard to meet the needs of our unsheltered population. 02:04:30.309 --> 02:04:32.309 So it's critically important for me to point out 02:04:33.269 --> 02:04:35.269 somebody asked, how big was Stockton in 1926. 02:04:37.109 --> 02:04:39.109 In 1928 it was 56,000 so 02:04:41.229 --> 02:04:43.229 it's 600% larger now, 02:04:43.709 --> 02:04:45.709 you know, and services needed for all of those people. 02:04:47.269 --> 02:04:49.269 So it was just a really different city. 02:04:49.909 --> 02:04:51.909 So this building was, went long past. 02:04:53.789 --> 02:04:55.789 It's, it's probably, it's what its lifetime should have been. 02:04:57.949 --> 02:04:59.949 I'm very, very much in favor of this 02:05:01.710 --> 02:05:03.430 getting this done as soon as possible because I can think 02:05:03.990 --> 02:05:05.990 that the costs are only going to increase. 02:05:06.790 --> 02:05:08.910 So let's get it done. Let's get people moved 02:05:09.350 --> 02:05:11.350 and let's start realizing some of the savings 02:05:11.630 --> 02:05:13.630 that we anticipated because of that. 02:05:13.830 --> 02:05:15.830 And that's it for me. 02:05:16.510 --> 02:05:18.590 Do we have a motion. So moved. Second. 02:05:19.630 --> 02:05:21.630 Guess your vote, please. 02:05:25.590 --> 02:05:27.590 This motion passes 70. 02:05:31.590 --> 02:05:33.590 This makeshift podium. 02:05:34.510 --> 02:05:35.830 Array. Moving on to agenda item 9.3. 02:05:38.270 --> 02:05:40.270 A point of personal privilege here. 02:05:41.950 --> 02:05:44.950 California Code of Regulations. Title to Section 18702.2 states. 02:05:48.390 --> 02:05:50.390 That the reasonably reasonably foreseeable financial effect. 02:05:51.711 --> 02:05:53.711 Of a government decision on a parcel of real property 02:05:55.111 --> 02:05:57.111 in which an official has a financial interest 02:05:57.551 --> 02:05:59.551 other than a lease holder interest is material. 02:06:01.310 --> 02:06:03.710 Whenever the government the governmental decision involves property less than 1000 02:06:05.791 --> 02:06:07.791 feet from the property line of the parcel 02:06:08.710 --> 02:06:10.710 and the decision would change 02:06:10.231 --> 02:06:12.231 the parcels character by substantially altering 02:06:12.751 --> 02:06:14.911 traffic levels. Intensity of use, parking view, privacy, noise 02:06:17.271 --> 02:06:19.271 levels, air quality or market value. 02:06:20.311 --> 02:06:22.311 My personal residence is less than a thousand feet 02:06:23.231 --> 02:06:25.231 from one of the parcels being considered in this 02:06:28.351 --> 02:06:30.511 decision tonight, so I will 02:06:30.511 --> 02:06:32.511 be recusing myself from item 9.3 and I will be returning 02:06:33.871 --> 02:06:35.871 for the public hearing following that. 02:06:36.871 --> 02:06:38.871 Thank you noted 02:06:40.192 --> 02:06:42.192 item 9.3 Adopt the resolution 02:06:42.752 --> 02:06:44.752 to authorize appropriation of 10.2 million in general. 02:06:46.392 --> 02:06:48.392 Fund dollars the City Council of Priority Projects staff. 02:06:50.672 --> 02:06:52.672 You have the floor to present. 02:06:53.720 --> 02:06:55.752 Good evening, Mayor and Council Kimberly Trammell, Chief Financial. Officer. 02:06:57.320 --> 02:06:59.320 Tonight i am bringing back to you 02:06:59.720 --> 02:07:02.720 something that was discussed in the Budget, Finance and Economic Development Committee. 02:07:03.952 --> 02:07:05.952 And so this goes back to our close 02:07:06.952 --> 02:07:08.952 out of the fiscal year 20, 21 financials. 02:07:10.472 --> 02:07:12.472 We had positive results at the end of that fiscal year 02:07:13.392 --> 02:07:15.392 and came to council with a recommendation 02:07:16.320 --> 02:07:18.320 that about $12 million be allocated towards 02:07:19.352 --> 02:07:21.352 special projects based on council priorities. 02:07:22.232 --> 02:07:24.232 And the action taken at council last November was to do that. 02:07:26.472 --> 02:07:28.472 12 million as well as take 10 million from the reserves 02:07:30.793 --> 02:07:32.793 and put that towards additional projects 02:07:33.513 --> 02:07:35.513 and to refer that to the budget finance Economic 02:07:37.513 --> 02:07:39.513 Development Committee for review and discussion. 02:07:40.553 --> 02:07:42.553 That committee met in December and in February to discuss 02:07:44.953 --> 02:07:46.953 options available for how to use the $10,000,010.2 million. 02:07:49.913 --> 02:07:51.913 The committee's recommendation at their February meeting 02:07:53.313 --> 02:07:55.313 is reflected on the slide here for various projects 02:07:56.313 --> 02:07:58.313 including sidewalk replacement Phong Park, Phase two Pixie 02:08:00.153 --> 02:08:02.153 Woods, Train Ride, Pixie Woods, Carousel Ride, 02:08:02.713 --> 02:08:04.713 Pixie Woods, Lagoon Dredging, Pixie Woods, New Amusement Ride, 02:08:06.393 --> 02:08:08.393 and Oak Park Pool. 02:08:08.633 --> 02:08:10.633 With a subtotal of 9.8 million 02:08:11.593 --> 02:08:13.593 since the committee met, we've vetted some of the options 02:08:15.330 --> 02:08:17.330 for the Pixie Woods amusement ride, and so that cost 02:08:18.953 --> 02:08:21.914 is an estimate of that cost. As reflected here we have our Public Works Director available. 02:08:24.794 --> 02:08:27.754 If you have questions on these projects or would like more information about the projects 02:08:31.114 --> 02:08:33.114 and the this is the committee's recommendations. 02:08:34.634 --> 02:08:36.634 So might be good to hear from some of the members 02:08:37.954 --> 02:08:40.234 on their logic. If you're interested. 02:08:46.234 --> 02:08:48.234 OK, are there any councilmembers. 02:08:49.114 --> 02:08:51.114 Councilmember Cannava at that time? 02:08:51.274 --> 02:08:53.274 I was the chair of the committee, so Dan, who just. 02:08:56.394 --> 02:08:58.394 Left the room. For a reason. 02:08:58.474 --> 02:09:00.474 So it was Sol and Dan's proposal and so that's 02:09:01.474 --> 02:09:03.674 what came forward out of our committee because it's it's really difficult 02:09:04.154 --> 02:09:06.434 when there's three people and you get $10 million to to spend. So 02:09:09.874 --> 02:09:11.874 there is some projects in here, a lot of them, 02:09:12.350 --> 02:09:14.350 you know what I mean are quality of life issues. 02:09:14.750 --> 02:09:16.755 And some of them, you know, we thought would be, you know, better for the community. 02:09:19.515 --> 02:09:21.515 But then after hearing some of the concerns about trees 02:09:22.350 --> 02:09:24.350 and sidewalks and, and the lack of care and, 02:09:25.835 --> 02:09:28.315 you know, fruit trees and sidewalks. So that's why 02:09:28.355 --> 02:09:30.555 when it came back here, I thought, well, this conversation is going to be more interesting. 02:09:31.395 --> 02:09:33.115 And then the first time we had the conversation when the 10.2 million was 02:09:36.350 --> 02:09:38.350 taken out for contingency by Councilmember Joe Brack. 02:09:39.395 --> 02:09:41.395 So it's not easy deciding, you know, when there's 02:09:42.155 --> 02:09:44.155 been so much neglect in the city on what projects to do 02:09:45.755 --> 02:09:47.755 and how to make it better when we haven't done it in so long. 02:09:50.115 --> 02:09:52.115 So when you do have money like this, everyone's 02:09:52.635 --> 02:09:54.635 kind of beating the drum that they want it. And so 02:09:56.755 --> 02:09:58.755 we did the best that we could with what we had 02:09:59.475 --> 02:10:01.475 and some of the communities and what they need. 02:10:01.916 --> 02:10:04.636 So it's not easy picking. So especially when there's three of us 02:10:05.276 --> 02:10:07.276 and everyone has kind of their own districts now 02:10:07.716 --> 02:10:09.716 and what what prioritizes our priorities they have. 02:10:12.156 --> 02:10:14.876 So that's that was kind of my comment. So now I'm glad that it comes back to the full council 02:10:16.396 --> 02:10:18.396 and that people in the community actually get to speak 02:10:19.760 --> 02:10:21.760 to what they believe is important. 02:10:21.116 --> 02:10:23.716 Thank you. So as previously stated, Councilmember Kanako 02:10:24.876 --> 02:10:26.876 was one of the three 02:10:28.596 --> 02:10:30.596 committee members, and 02:10:32.760 --> 02:10:34.760 Councilmember Wright, who recused himself, 02:10:35.556 --> 02:10:37.556 was another one. I don't know if Councilmember Joe Black, who is the third, 02:10:39.756 --> 02:10:41.756 would like to make a comment initially. 02:10:43.156 --> 02:10:45.236 I know this is probably a public comment, too, so I'd be interested. 02:10:46.356 --> 02:10:48.996 I'm going to make some comments from here on voting, but I'd like to hear from 02:10:50.197 --> 02:10:52.397 the community first. OK, perfect. 02:10:52.957 --> 02:10:54.957 Close. Do we have any public comments? 02:10:55.677 --> 02:10:57.197 We do. Mayor of Will begin with Gina Calder. 02:11:04.770 --> 02:11:06.877 And just to remind the public, when you make comments, you do have 2 minutes and 02:11:09.357 --> 02:11:11.717 for the viewing audience as well. Let's maintain the rules of decorum, please. 02:11:15.997 --> 02:11:17.997 Gary Junior, Lincoln, vice mayor of Crazy. 02:11:18.757 --> 02:11:21.637 Council and city staff. As a parent and business owner in Stockton, 02:11:22.917 --> 02:11:24.917 I am very passionate about our community. 02:11:26.157 --> 02:11:28.157 One of the biggest concerns on my list are our parks. 02:11:30.997 --> 02:11:32.997 We need to provide and maintain a safe place for our children. 02:11:34.237 --> 02:11:37.237 And our children's children to play, gather and celebrate life's simple pleasures. 02:11:39.957 --> 02:11:41.957 There are so many issues that we have in front of us 02:11:42.358 --> 02:11:44.358 as business leaders, political leaders and general population. 02:11:47.118 --> 02:11:49.118 I believe that if we provide parks 02:11:49.798 --> 02:11:51.798 that have fun, safe, clean play equipment 02:11:52.558 --> 02:11:54.558 and event opportunities that the neighboring communities 02:11:56.278 --> 02:11:58.278 that surround these parks, we'll start to see the progress 02:11:59.438 --> 02:12:01.438 and efforts being made by all of the city city leaders 02:12:03.798 --> 02:12:05.798 I would like to see the general fund money 02:12:06.118 --> 02:12:08.118 allocated to our parks, some of the some of the projects 02:12:09.278 --> 02:12:11.278 that include lighting and parks, proper trails 02:12:13.118 --> 02:12:15.118 for walking and biking carousels, rides 02:12:16.798 --> 02:12:18.798 and other entertain entertainment features in parks 02:12:19.678 --> 02:12:21.678 that actually generate income for our city. 02:12:23.398 --> 02:12:25.398 From a business standpoint, when you generate income, 02:12:26.438 --> 02:12:28.438 the money can go back into the city and help 02:12:30.879 --> 02:12:32.879 provide funds for other projects coming forward in the parks. 02:12:35.239 --> 02:12:37.239 Thank you very much 02:12:38.519 --> 02:12:40.519 Mary Panini, 02:12:48.519 --> 02:12:50.519 good evening, council mayor. 02:12:51.479 --> 02:12:53.919 As Gina spoke. We're very passionate about our community. 02:12:55.519 --> 02:12:57.519 And just like this building. 02:12:57.639 --> 02:12:59.639 Pixie wood is getting very old. 02:12:59.999 --> 02:13:01.999 And it really needs a lot of attention. 02:13:02.599 --> 02:13:05.359 And I'm so. Excited to see that our projects have been brought to your priorities 02:13:08.399 --> 02:13:10.399 and will generate more income 02:13:11.519 --> 02:13:13.519 when they are able to be used 02:13:14.519 --> 02:13:16.519 as we're going to have opening day this coming Saturday 02:13:17.839 --> 02:13:19.839 and the merry round is not going to work. 02:13:20.390 --> 02:13:22.320 It's not. Workable. So everything falls apart at some point. 02:13:25.360 --> 02:13:27.360 And one of those projects up there is a new amusement ride. 02:13:31.400 --> 02:13:32.760 At this time. We don't need another amusement ride. 02:13:34.800 --> 02:13:36.520 What we. Need are new. Walkways and pathways in that park. 02:13:38.200 --> 02:13:40.200 They're trip hazards and they're dangerous. 02:13:41.000 --> 02:13:43.360 And I would rather see that. Money go to repair those parts. 02:13:45.840 --> 02:13:48.760 Half of my board is here tonight to support this recommendation, and I urge you to vote on it. 02:13:53.280 --> 02:13:55.280 Thank you for your time. 02:13:56.920 --> 02:13:58.920 Nate. Not 02:14:04.680 --> 02:14:07.360 good evening again. Thanks for the opportunity to speak. 02:14:07.560 --> 02:14:09.560 Our Nate, not 1021 West Acacia Street 02:14:11.241 --> 02:14:13.241 and actually a frequent Walker Victory Park. 02:14:14.521 --> 02:14:16.521 It was eight years and three days ago 02:14:16.561 --> 02:14:18.561 that I started walking Battery Park on a regular basis. 02:14:19.121 --> 02:14:21.121 Usually very early in the morning. 02:14:21.641 --> 02:14:23.641 Just anecdotally in eight years, we lost about 02:14:25.810 --> 02:14:27.810 75 old growth, huge trees in Victory Park. 02:14:29.810 --> 02:14:31.810 And I think we maybe have planted 15 new ones. 02:14:31.561 --> 02:14:33.561 So I'm thrilled there's an emphasis on, 02:14:33.841 --> 02:14:35.841 I think it was $5 million for new trees 02:14:36.361 --> 02:14:39.361 and well, that sounds like a huge amount of money. We must have treaties. 02:14:40.201 --> 02:14:42.921 First of all, Stockton and Sacramento. Modesto were famous for trees in the valley. 02:14:44.681 --> 02:14:46.681 The trees will suck up the carbon dioxide 02:14:47.201 --> 02:14:49.521 and the greenhouse gas emissions they'll they'll give out oxygen, they'll create shade, 02:14:52.201 --> 02:14:55.410 which is very important to the health of other plants and human beings 02:14:56.841 --> 02:14:58.841 traveling around the town and walking, 02:14:59.121 --> 02:15:01.121 you know, trees and shade will encourage more walking, 02:15:02.200 --> 02:15:04.200 which is healthy for people, greatly healthy. 02:15:04.962 --> 02:15:06.962 I now walk five to 14,000 steps a day. 02:15:09.282 --> 02:15:11.682 Of course, I as many of you know, I walk and ride the bus all the time. 02:15:13.522 --> 02:15:15.522 When I committed to that eight since eight years ago, 02:15:16.322 --> 02:15:18.322 I'm now £25 less than I used to be on a full time 02:15:19.682 --> 02:15:21.682 regular basis, primarily because of my walking. 02:15:23.282 --> 02:15:25.282 I don't lift weights and do a bunch of other stuff. 02:15:25.482 --> 02:15:27.482 I don't do marathon running, walking Stockton's streets 02:15:29.842 --> 02:15:31.842 has helped me drop £25 permanently. 02:15:34.122 --> 02:15:37.122 Having said that and dealing with the parks and the swimming pools 02:15:38.322 --> 02:15:40.322 and everything else, we also need good sidewalks of 02:15:43.282 --> 02:15:46.242 you. It's very, there's a lot of liability when sidewalks and streets 02:15:47.602 --> 02:15:50.162 are not maintained well and those things can lead to huge, unseen expenses down 02:15:52.563 --> 02:15:54.923 the road. And deferred 02:15:54.923 --> 02:15:56.923 maintenance is always a dead end for losing in the future. 02:15:58.243 --> 02:16:00.203 I'm usually a visionary. I usually would like to see bells and whistles, 02:16:01.683 --> 02:16:04.603 but I'd like to see the swimming pools brought back to the good order of swimming. 02:16:05.283 --> 02:16:07.603 I'd like to see the sidewalks brought back to the good order of walking. 02:16:08.843 --> 02:16:10.843 And I want to see trees to fight 02:16:11.430 --> 02:16:13.430 to produce human quality of shade corners, 02:16:14.523 --> 02:16:16.523 helping other species, helping wildlife such as birds 02:16:18.300 --> 02:16:20.300 and plants, and also fighting climate change. 02:16:22.483 --> 02:16:24.483 And just for the good health of all. 02:16:24.883 --> 02:16:26.883 What I also want to do to conclude my remarks 02:16:27.123 --> 02:16:29.123 and therefore I'm not really in favor of a new amusement ride. 02:16:29.523 --> 02:16:31.443 For example, Pixie Woods, I'd rather see Pixie Woods brought back to so 02:16:34.203 --> 02:16:36.203 good state of repair for what's been existing and successful. 02:16:38.363 --> 02:16:40.363 I want to see streets and parks and pools 02:16:41.244 --> 02:16:43.244 brought back to a good state of repair. 02:16:44.164 --> 02:16:46.164 To me, the pride in the city that you get is when things are 02:16:48.284 --> 02:16:50.284 clean, functional, operable and efficient. 02:16:52.444 --> 02:16:54.444 And I think you'll find the public will be greatly satisfied 02:16:56.404 --> 02:16:58.404 if they see things brought to a state of good repair 02:16:59.524 --> 02:17:01.524 and in constant ongoing operating efficiency. 02:17:03.844 --> 02:17:05.844 Thank you. 02:17:08.964 --> 02:17:10.964 Julie Devinsky. 02:17:12.124 --> 02:17:14.124 For that. 02:17:22.400 --> 02:17:24.244 Thank you everyone up there. And I agree. 02:17:24.244 --> 02:17:26.244 Hundred percent with the last gentleman who spoke 02:17:28.124 --> 02:17:30.284 I'm. Going to read my statement. Of the quicker I believe the first priority for the. 02:17:32.285 --> 02:17:34.285 10.2 million 2020 2021. 02:17:35.125 --> 02:17:38.850 Carry over should be put towards caring for and maintaining our city trees. 02:17:39.605 --> 02:17:41.605 The city has one tree crew consisting of. 02:17:41.645 --> 02:17:44.500 Three employees. Obviously not enough to manpower. 02:17:45.125 --> 02:17:47.125 To take care of. 92,000 trees. 02:17:48.205 --> 02:17:50.285 Because of the shortage. Trees are being removed rather than maintained. 02:17:52.205 --> 02:17:54.605 This department has been overlooked since before the bankruptcy. 02:17:55.365 --> 02:17:57.365 It's way past time for the tree department to be restored. 02:17:58.805 --> 02:18:01.685 The city has money now and cannot continue to use the bankruptcy 02:18:03.125 --> 02:18:05.125 as an excuse not to get this done. 02:18:05.645 --> 02:18:07.645 Please begin with hiring a board certified master arborist. 02:18:09.605 --> 02:18:11.605 That has to be the beginning point. 02:18:11.885 --> 02:18:13.605 The city needs. Educated, knowledgeable and certified. 02:18:15.450 --> 02:18:16.925 Head of the tree. Department 02:18:17.165 --> 02:18:19.645 after that puts some money towards adding tree crews to get the work done. 02:18:21.766 --> 02:18:23.766 My husband and I make sure the street trees 02:18:23.806 --> 02:18:25.806 in front of our house are taking care of We water 02:18:26.766 --> 02:18:28.766 them, have dead branches removed and we do not mind doing so. 02:18:31.206 --> 02:18:33.206 There are others, however, who have trees incorrectly 02:18:33.766 --> 02:18:36.566 pruned or removed. If the city were to have an arborist. 02:18:37.246 --> 02:18:39.246 On staff supervising tree care, 02:18:39.686 --> 02:18:41.686 a lot of problems could be avoided. 02:18:42.126 --> 02:18:44.806 It would be nice to budget for all of the. Extras listed on your programs. 02:18:45.486 --> 02:18:47.486 And projects for Consideration Sheet, 02:18:47.726 --> 02:18:50.646 but you can't put off maintenance forever and things start in neighborhoods. 02:18:51.460 --> 02:18:53.460 We're going to be a decent place to. Live with house. 02:18:53.406 --> 02:18:55.406 Healthy, maintain trees. Thank you. 02:18:57.166 --> 02:19:00.460 And I have a. Little. Pamphlet that maybe. 02:19:06.566 --> 02:19:08.566 Barbara Killian 02:19:19.447 --> 02:19:22.870 Thank you. And first of all, I would like to say 02:19:24.367 --> 02:19:26.367 little kids do not mean big kid, right? 02:19:29.687 --> 02:19:31.687 Fix what you have there. 02:19:31.807 --> 02:19:33.607 A pixie. Don't don't build new stuff. 02:19:37.567 --> 02:19:39.470 All right. I also want to encourage you to. 02:19:43.527 --> 02:19:45.247 Take care. Of the trees get some arborists 02:19:47.287 --> 02:19:49.287 on your staff, water the trees, maintain them 02:19:52.847 --> 02:19:54.847 trim and appropriately 02:20:00.870 --> 02:20:02.870 and then the sidewalks, especially 02:20:04.368 --> 02:20:06.368 the sidewalks, in all of this part, part. 02:20:07.288 --> 02:20:09.248 Of the city that. Need to be fixed 02:20:11.408 --> 02:20:13.408 And just 02:20:13.528 --> 02:20:15.528 on a personal note, drive in sidewalks 02:20:17.368 --> 02:20:19.368 and link to the hospital as a result. 02:20:20.248 --> 02:20:22.248 So these sidewalks need to be fixed. 02:20:26.288 --> 02:20:28.288 Thank you. 02:20:31.128 --> 02:20:33.128 Iran, Samson. 02:20:43.528 --> 02:20:46.208 Mayor, vice mayor, council people. It's been a little while since I've been up here to talk. 02:20:47.728 --> 02:20:49.728 I think the last time was with Ernie Shropshire. 02:20:49.808 --> 02:20:51.808 Who many of you may know, who all his life was. 02:20:54.900 --> 02:20:56.900 Part of the pixie was board of directors. 02:20:56.169 --> 02:20:58.169 So, yes, I am here to talk about Pixie Woods. 02:20:58.689 --> 02:21:00.489 And I would tell you that the current board that we have 02:21:01.329 --> 02:21:03.569 not including all the people who have worked on Pixie was board, is in excess of 350 02:21:08.609 --> 02:21:10.609 years of dedicated service. 02:21:11.609 --> 02:21:13.609 If we go back to the beginning of time, which is 1954, 02:21:15.449 --> 02:21:17.449 it would be much more I mean could be 500. 02:21:17.729 --> 02:21:19.729 I don't know if haven't done the math on that one yet. 02:21:20.249 --> 02:21:22.249 But as I hear all the people, first of all I respect 02:21:24.890 --> 02:21:26.929 the decisions that you have to make. They're difficult ones. 02:21:27.609 --> 02:21:30.489 Homeless, the sidewalks. I have two properties that I own. That have. 02:21:31.449 --> 02:21:33.449 City trees that have lifted the sidewalks. 02:21:33.889 --> 02:21:35.889 So yes, they are important. 02:21:36.449 --> 02:21:38.449 There are so many things that are important in this city. 02:21:39.289 --> 02:21:41.289 So I agree with Mary Putney, our president, that 02:21:42.210 --> 02:21:44.210 we don't need a new structure, but we do need to improve. 02:21:45.570 --> 02:21:48.490 What we have. Many dedicated board members have saved the city 02:21:51.810 --> 02:21:53.810 hundreds of thousands of dollars because they have 02:21:54.810 --> 02:21:56.810 in their business or professions, have donated 02:21:57.810 --> 02:21:59.850 I mean, billy goat grass, which it used to be, is now Memorial Grove. 02:22:01.890 --> 02:22:03.890 That was $120,000 savings because the pixie was board, 02:22:05.570 --> 02:22:07.610 got in there and did it. And I can tell you 02:22:07.690 --> 02:22:09.690 so many more projects that we have put our hands to 02:22:11.170 --> 02:22:13.170 and I used to be a little bit more spry 25 years ago, 02:22:14.890 --> 02:22:17.100 but I'm, you know, still trying to hang in there for the good of the cause. 02:22:18.730 --> 02:22:20.730 So I think there's so many things again 02:22:22.900 --> 02:22:24.730 that are important to the city. And so thank you for everything that you do 02:22:26.850 --> 02:22:28.850 because they are very difficult decisions. 02:22:29.210 --> 02:22:31.210 And as the crowd sometimes will shake their head 02:22:31.451 --> 02:22:33.451 or make comments when other people are talking, 02:22:33.931 --> 02:22:35.931 I understand that there are frustrated. 02:22:36.331 --> 02:22:38.331 And Paul, I appreciate the comments 02:22:38.531 --> 02:22:40.731 that you made about it, too. So we don't need 500,000. 02:22:41.851 --> 02:22:43.851 Give it to sidewalks, give it to trees, whatever. 02:22:44.131 --> 02:22:46.131 I'd like the trees to get fixed, too. 02:22:46.291 --> 02:22:48.291 And it's not fair for other people to suffer. 02:22:50.611 --> 02:22:53.611 But we need these things. Pixie Woods. 02:22:54.211 --> 02:22:56.211 Pixie Woods is a Stockton treasure 02:22:56.731 --> 02:22:58.731 it is a true treasure of Stockton. 02:22:58.891 --> 02:23:00.891 If we do not take time 02:23:01.571 --> 02:23:03.571 to fix our city, to fix things like Pixie Woods, 02:23:05.451 --> 02:23:07.451 what are we doing and children are important. 02:23:08.211 --> 02:23:10.811 Children are our future. So it's play imagination. 02:23:12.811 --> 02:23:14.811 Those things are are what builds our future. 02:23:15.651 --> 02:23:18.531 So anyway, thank you very much for my time. And I cannot believe I didn't take my whole 3 minutes. 02:23:19.771 --> 02:23:22.532 Mary, isn't that amazing for me? So thank you so very much. 02:23:25.292 --> 02:23:27.292 Antonio Guyton, 02:23:30.692 --> 02:23:32.692 David Ross. 02:23:43.812 --> 02:23:45.132 Hello. My name is David Ross. 02:23:47.252 --> 02:23:49.920 Thank you, Christina. For inviting me tonight. 02:23:49.372 --> 02:23:51.372 I guess I just moved here from Tucson, Arizona, 02:23:53.932 --> 02:23:55.932 to California for my daughter, and she's disabled, 02:23:57.892 --> 02:23:59.892 so she's going to the Wharton School over on 02:24:01.892 --> 02:24:03.532 Pershing. And we just bought a house on a for now st, 02:24:07.520 --> 02:24:09.732 the one with the palm trees and stuff, and most of the sidewalks are pretty nice, 02:24:10.653 --> 02:24:12.653 but right in front of our house, like where our driveway is. 02:24:14.133 --> 02:24:16.133 Well, the neighbor has a big oak tree and stuff. 02:24:16.333 --> 02:24:18.333 So the the drive was all broken and beat up. 02:24:19.893 --> 02:24:22.530 So my daughter is unable to, like, get on her bus through our driveway. 02:24:24.213 --> 02:24:26.213 So I sent christina some pictures. 02:24:26.893 --> 02:24:28.893 You guys are welcome to see those pictures. 02:24:29.130 --> 02:24:31.130 And I sent her a little video. 02:24:31.173 --> 02:24:33.933 Yeah. Um. And, you know, we had to use my neighbor's driveway to 02:24:36.693 --> 02:24:38.773 to get her on the bus. So I don't really know. 02:24:41.293 --> 02:24:43.293 I guess I don't know if this money is approved or whatever, 02:24:44.133 --> 02:24:46.133 but I guess if you guys are fixing sidewalks 02:24:48.333 --> 02:24:50.333 a guy came to our house and looked and. 02:24:50.973 --> 02:24:52.973 Painted some things, but he said it would be five years. 02:24:53.373 --> 02:24:56.133 Before. Before he would, he said, look, we're on a waiting list. 02:24:57.930 --> 02:24:59.930 But then he advised me to contact Christina, and 02:25:02.254 --> 02:25:04.254 and so I did. And then. 02:25:04.654 --> 02:25:06.734 I guess here I am. Asking for I don't know a little six foot by three. 02:25:10.774 --> 02:25:12.734 Foot piece of sidewalk. Repaired just so I can 02:25:14.854 --> 02:25:16.854 wheel my daughter onto her disabled bus. 02:25:18.814 --> 02:25:21.454 No big deal. Thank you. Vote for Bill Smith. 02:25:23.374 --> 02:25:26.334 But I work for the county of San. I got a job with the county of San here. 02:25:27.214 --> 02:25:29.574 If I may just ask. You to refrain from spreading. 02:25:30.734 --> 02:25:33.494 Any political communication. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say vote for him. 02:25:33.974 --> 02:25:36.894 I said I'm friends with Bill Smith. He's the one who told me to say all that. 02:25:37.334 --> 02:25:39.334 So thank you. Thanks. 02:25:42.534 --> 02:25:43.934 Mark. Stebbins. 02:25:59.335 --> 02:26:01.775 It's difficult when you're looking at needs 02:26:04.375 --> 02:26:06.375 and what needs to be done 02:26:06.775 --> 02:26:08.775 and picks you words is certainly dear to my heart and 02:26:12.975 --> 02:26:14.975 but I'd ask the council 02:26:15.815 --> 02:26:17.815 to begin tonight. 02:26:19.455 --> 02:26:21.455 With your phrase. 02:26:22.255 --> 02:26:24.255 If not here, where? 02:26:26.150 --> 02:26:28.150 If not now, when 02:26:30.935 --> 02:26:32.935 justice 02:26:33.215 --> 02:26:36.150 is needed and you need to be the leaders for justice. 02:26:39.735 --> 02:26:41.735 It is not justice 02:26:41.896 --> 02:26:43.896 to spend $10 million in city parks 02:26:45.936 --> 02:26:47.936 and another week go to south stockton 02:26:49.576 --> 02:26:51.576 it's not justice. 02:26:52.960 --> 02:26:54.960 It's not justice to have Ben Buskirk 02:26:54.936 --> 02:26:56.936 golf course closed down 02:26:58.696 --> 02:27:00.696 and Swanson Park open. 02:27:02.216 --> 02:27:05.176 It's not justice. So start with justice. 02:27:07.560 --> 02:27:09.560 Take the first step of the Selma Bridge 02:27:10.816 --> 02:27:12.816 and move toward equality. 02:27:13.656 --> 02:27:15.656 Move toward justice. 02:27:16.536 --> 02:27:18.536 They decisions you make on each item. 02:27:22.960 --> 02:27:24.960 Everyone wants something for their district, 02:27:26.960 --> 02:27:28.960 but maybe it's time to think 02:27:31.377 --> 02:27:34.257 what I said. Seek the good of 02:27:35.177 --> 02:27:37.177 the city where I have sent you. 02:27:38.537 --> 02:27:40.537 Thank you. 02:27:42.337 --> 02:27:44.177 Thank you. Ernest Williams. 02:27:57.857 --> 02:27:59.857 Well, here I am again. 02:28:01.297 --> 02:28:03.377 You know, I was listening to this committee. 02:28:05.977 --> 02:28:07.977 I would get pretty good. 02:28:08.170 --> 02:28:10.170 Anybody remember before? Yes. 02:28:11.217 --> 02:28:13.617 I do, too. She was really 02:28:15.297 --> 02:28:18.570 fanatical about Pixie. She would. And she loved that place. 02:28:20.170 --> 02:28:22.170 And I enjoyed my little stay out there, you know? 02:28:23.138 --> 02:28:25.138 And I thought that I worked for Parks and Recreation 02:28:27.938 --> 02:28:30.738 when I ended up working for Dorothea for about six months because she said, I like him. 02:28:33.418 --> 02:28:35.418 He's good with the kid, you know? 02:28:35.618 --> 02:28:37.618 So but anyway, what I would to say is 02:28:41.418 --> 02:28:43.738 welcome the young, the guy from Tucson. 02:28:45.978 --> 02:28:47.978 I've got to say, welcome to Stockton. 02:28:48.580 --> 02:28:50.580 And everybody's waiting up there, 02:28:50.418 --> 02:28:52.418 isn't there because of the pay check? 02:28:54.178 --> 02:28:56.378 Some of you are up there because you really have good intentions. 02:28:58.618 --> 02:29:00.618 And I found out to life after I got to this age 02:29:02.978 --> 02:29:04.978 I am now that good intentions don't mean much without action. 02:29:08.538 --> 02:29:10.538 So I was hoping that 02:29:12.539 --> 02:29:14.539 we could at least 02:29:14.619 --> 02:29:16.619 have a consideration of McKinley Park 02:29:18.779 --> 02:29:20.779 somewhere up there 02:29:21.590 --> 02:29:23.939 by being one of the all the parks here in the city of stopping. 02:29:24.699 --> 02:29:26.699 I was raised up on the west side of town. 02:29:27.419 --> 02:29:29.419 I went to McKinley Elementary School. 02:29:29.699 --> 02:29:32.459 That was my alma mater. I graduated from Madison High School. 02:29:33.899 --> 02:29:36.379 That's my alma mater. McKinley was where I learned how to swim 02:29:39.179 --> 02:29:41.179 play golf, played baseball and a lot of other stuff. 02:29:43.619 --> 02:29:45.619 And I wish McKinley could have been up there tonight. 02:29:47.259 --> 02:29:49.259 I'm disappointed and not much I can do about it, 02:29:50.939 --> 02:29:52.939 except come up here and pin your ear. 02:29:54.590 --> 02:29:56.590 Yeah. So I'm going to be your ear. 02:29:57.590 --> 02:29:59.590 I wish you would have considered McKinley. 02:29:59.939 --> 02:30:02.620 You know, I'm trying to figure out what happened to that money that we were supposed 02:30:04.660 --> 02:30:06.660 to be getting for the McKinley intend of. 02:30:09.180 --> 02:30:11.180 Mr. Bell, since you're there and you were the one that 02:30:13.260 --> 02:30:15.260 backed both 02:30:16.180 --> 02:30:17.940 I would like for you to take a look and find out what happened to that money 02:30:20.200 --> 02:30:22.200 and what happened to those projects that you promised the 02:30:23.620 --> 02:30:25.620 group of parents and children that came up to those meetings 02:30:27.660 --> 02:30:29.660 and sit through all the boring 02:30:30.140 --> 02:30:32.140 presentations and the sake of stop planning. 02:30:33.900 --> 02:30:35.900 And now I haven't heard a thing 02:30:37.600 --> 02:30:39.600 from those good people. 02:30:40.600 --> 02:30:42.600 So I'm just wondering, you know, 02:30:44.500 --> 02:30:46.500 maybe next time when you get that 10,000 02:30:47.460 --> 02:30:49.460 or 20,000, maybe you can want to you could write McKinley. 02:30:52.301 --> 02:30:54.301 I mean, I certainly would appreciate it. 02:30:57.261 --> 02:30:59.261 Ralph White. 02:31:02.501 --> 02:31:04.501 Yeah. 02:31:05.501 --> 02:31:07.501 Some good people. Do bad thing. 02:31:09.101 --> 02:31:11.821 One is I've ever been on Martin Luther King Drive 02:31:15.501 --> 02:31:18.421 is sorry. I don't think you've been out there because maybe you went out there, you would look at picks. 02:31:19.941 --> 02:31:21.941 You would just look at different 02:31:22.181 --> 02:31:24.181 all the trees that you're talking about. 02:31:24.301 --> 02:31:26.301 90% of the trees on Martin Luther King Drive is dead 02:31:27.941 --> 02:31:29.941 cut up out of the thing, running to buy cars, whatever 02:31:31.221 --> 02:31:33.221 you go into the bridge, there's no light at nighttime. 02:31:34.861 --> 02:31:36.861 Over on Martin Luther King Drive, a name 02:31:37.421 --> 02:31:39.421 that's known national and then it's the best street, 02:31:40.610 --> 02:31:42.610 the only city that Martin Luther King Drive. 02:31:43.502 --> 02:31:45.502 You have to cross from Canada to Mexico. 02:31:48.620 --> 02:31:50.822 You'll cross Martin Luther King Drive. You go down 99 or five. 02:31:52.502 --> 02:31:54.902 And if you fly to Los Angeles or five back, 02:31:54.902 --> 02:31:57.620 you're going to fly over and Martin Luther King drive, in his words, look and celebrate city 02:31:59.142 --> 02:32:01.142 and street in this town right now, looking at all 02:32:03.620 --> 02:32:05.620 the pigs who would almost $3 million for beaks. 02:32:06.582 --> 02:32:08.622 It would come on, man. What your man, if you ever been out in South Stockton, 02:32:11.502 --> 02:32:14.220 you go out and sell stock and look like it's been an earthquake. 02:32:14.220 --> 02:32:16.220 On every street out there, just about 02:32:16.382 --> 02:32:18.382 especially on California Street near McKinley Park. 02:32:19.862 --> 02:32:21.862 If you ever been over Owen, Owen 02:32:22.582 --> 02:32:24.582 and Councilman 02:32:25.102 --> 02:32:27.662 Ferguson's district, you still got horse and buggy carriage streets out there. 02:32:29.942 --> 02:32:31.942 What I mean by that, you got wooden curves all over. 02:32:34.863 --> 02:32:36.863 We've been paying money for years in this town 02:32:37.303 --> 02:32:39.623 for you guys to have a meeting and to 02:32:39.623 --> 02:32:41.623 recommend this kind of money and overlooked wooden curves 02:32:43.423 --> 02:32:45.423 because you know, those people have been paying taxes all my life. 02:32:46.503 --> 02:32:49.303 You got wooden curves and you talk about how raggedy 02:32:49.543 --> 02:32:51.543 this building is with the bats and everything in here, 02:32:52.343 --> 02:32:54.343 but you got code enforcement all over South Stockton, Tom. 02:32:56.583 --> 02:32:58.903 And I bet in tagging everybody like hell 02:32:59.103 --> 02:33:01.583 that you ain't got millions of dollars out of people in South Stockton. 02:33:02.103 --> 02:33:04.103 All of you have that big, big thing of it is in 02:33:05.703 --> 02:33:08.503 that going to sell you sooner or later and somebody's gonna get paid quite a bit. 02:33:10.463 --> 02:33:11.863 And, you know, I just may be part of that but I want you to know one thing. 02:33:14.583 --> 02:33:16.583 You running your mouth about how bad this is, 02:33:16.863 --> 02:33:18.863 but you go code enforcement tagging everybody. 02:33:19.263 --> 02:33:21.704 You better send a movie because you know something like $1,000 a day 02:33:22.144 --> 02:33:24.144 or $2,000 a day depends on what they win in court. 02:33:25.144 --> 02:33:27.144 You can be by $1,000 a day for this, right? 02:33:27.224 --> 02:33:29.224 This building and you said it, y'all admitted it. 02:33:30.544 --> 02:33:32.544 So now you contact your code enforcement tomorrow 02:33:33.664 --> 02:33:36.344 and let them know all this stuff and see if they're going to take it. 02:33:36.664 --> 02:33:38.664 Gambling on tag, is it better tag the hell out of the people. 02:33:39.544 --> 02:33:42.104 And that's unfair. That picture would I know all about. 02:33:44.144 --> 02:33:46.144 But 90% of the people, 99% of the people in South Stockton 02:33:47.864 --> 02:33:50.424 don't even know what it would mean. They don't know where it's at. 02:33:51.504 --> 02:33:54.224 It is bad. And y'all know I'm telling the truth, whether you like it or not. 02:33:56.304 --> 02:33:58.624 Am I telling the truth? Mainly men, man. 02:33:58.624 --> 02:34:00.624 I'm just saying that we don't know what pigs will do. 02:34:01.784 --> 02:34:03.784 Never been do it, huh? 02:34:05.704 --> 02:34:07.704 I bet a dime against a donut. 02:34:08.184 --> 02:34:10.184 Thank you. 02:34:10.385 --> 02:34:12.385 Michel Padilla. 02:34:25.785 --> 02:34:27.305 Good evening. Mayor and City Council. 02:34:28.745 --> 02:34:31.225 My name is Michelle Padilla, and I live in North Stockton, which is District one. 02:34:33.745 --> 02:34:35.745 I'm here before you to speak about 02:34:37.905 --> 02:34:39.905 the ten point million dollars to be spent. 02:34:40.145 --> 02:34:42.145 On. Projects that will not. 02:34:43.385 --> 02:34:45.385 Directly impact. Stockton. 02:34:45.945 --> 02:34:47.945 And as a major taxpayer, it's important 02:34:50.265 --> 02:34:52.265 for us to see our dollars at work for us. 02:34:54.425 --> 02:34:56.265 Focusing. On issues that affect us on a daily basis. 02:34:59.465 --> 02:35:01.746 For example. I can assure you that this council spending 02:35:04.626 --> 02:35:06.626 almost $3 million. 02:35:07.306 --> 02:35:09.306 On an Olympic sized, heated swimming pool will not 02:35:11.826 --> 02:35:13.826 be something that our community will but will benefit from. 02:35:16.146 --> 02:35:18.146 So how about. 02:35:18.626 --> 02:35:20.626 All these all these residents 02:35:20.906 --> 02:35:22.906 commenting on the potholes, the city streets. 02:35:24.906 --> 02:35:27.466 The sidewalks that, you know, I'm sure you get complaints about lawsuits. 02:35:30.506 --> 02:35:33.106 You know, I'm feel compassionate for her. She even mentioned she fell. 02:35:34.226 --> 02:35:36.226 In addition to that, we have homeless encampments 02:35:38.346 --> 02:35:40.346 coming up all over in our neighborhoods. 02:35:41.186 --> 02:35:43.186 And lastly, 02:35:43.386 --> 02:35:44.666 which was also mentioned, I don't see any money 02:35:46.706 --> 02:35:48.706 being allotted to South Stockton. 02:35:50.106 --> 02:35:52.547 It's failing. It's being. Neglected. 02:35:53.467 --> 02:35:55.427 We need to be. Focusing on our people's needs. 02:35:57.547 --> 02:35:59.547 Stockton deserves better. 02:35:59.827 --> 02:36:01.827 Thank you. 02:36:03.787 --> 02:36:05.787 Beth Horton, 02:36:10.187 --> 02:36:12.187 that concludes our public comment. 02:36:13.707 --> 02:36:15.707 Thank you, Vice Mayor Fugazi. 02:36:15.867 --> 02:36:17.867 Thank you, Miss Al Massie. 02:36:18.670 --> 02:36:20.670 If she can come out 02:36:21.670 --> 02:36:23.670 so I will just start by saying we have. 02:36:24.267 --> 02:36:26.707 Oh, I didn't realize she was in there. We have. 02:36:28.267 --> 02:36:31.147 Well, I remember when it was $997 million 02:36:34.307 --> 02:36:36.307 in deferred maintenance about four years ago. 02:36:36.907 --> 02:36:38.907 That was the figure that was given to us. 02:36:39.707 --> 02:36:41.707 So we have a ton of deferred maintenance in this city. 02:36:44.508 --> 02:36:46.508 I did recently a post 02:36:46.908 --> 02:36:48.908 actually about 24 hours ago, I did a post online. 02:36:50.188 --> 02:36:52.188 I because you know how many people we have? 02:36:52.588 --> 02:36:55.508 320,000 people. This room should be packed. 02:36:56.680 --> 02:36:58.680 It should be packed outside as you packed downstairs, 02:36:59.188 --> 02:37:01.988 there should be tons of people here, but they get to the point where they're apathetic. 02:37:03.628 --> 02:37:05.628 They're like, I come, I speak, I tell you what 02:37:06.868 --> 02:37:08.868 I want as a taxpayer and you do what you want anyway. 02:37:09.828 --> 02:37:11.828 So they don't feel like it really touches them. 02:37:12.388 --> 02:37:14.388 But when I did, I did post, I posted on two places 02:37:15.388 --> 02:37:17.388 my page and I posted on a another page 02:37:19.668 --> 02:37:21.668 and I received over 150 responses and that was as of 02:37:26.108 --> 02:37:28.108 4:00 today. 02:37:28.588 --> 02:37:30.588 So my question for you is 02:37:31.109 --> 02:37:33.109 when you get calls, ask Stockton 02:37:35.189 --> 02:37:37.189 requests for assistance. 02:37:37.389 --> 02:37:39.389 What is what do you receive most? 02:37:40.690 --> 02:37:42.690 What are the needs that you're receiving? 02:37:42.269 --> 02:37:44.949 Most calls for service four through your Public Works Department. 02:37:47.829 --> 02:37:49.829 The winners are always going to be 02:37:50.309 --> 02:37:52.309 sidewalks, trees, roads. 02:37:54.509 --> 02:37:56.509 Those are always going to be the winners. 02:37:56.549 --> 02:37:58.549 OK. And winner not in a good way. 02:37:59.749 --> 02:38:01.749 And you know, we had a lot of rain the other day. 02:38:02.509 --> 02:38:04.509 Unexpected hail, rain, hail, rain. 02:38:05.469 --> 02:38:07.469 I had to go from from Edison High School 02:38:10.229 --> 02:38:12.229 to midtown and then back 02:38:12.469 --> 02:38:14.469 and I encountered so many flood flooded roads 02:38:16.469 --> 02:38:18.469 like I had to go up and around sidewalks and curves. 02:38:20.190 --> 02:38:22.190 Do they help at all with with flood. 02:38:25.750 --> 02:38:27.470 They don't believe. So. When you have busted gutter pans 02:38:29.910 --> 02:38:31.910 that are going to impede flow from getting to the storm drain 02:38:34.350 --> 02:38:37.230 catch basin yeah. It's going to hinder proper drainage of a roadway. 02:38:39.430 --> 02:38:40.550 Right. Because I know that of course, sharks are a storm drain. 02:38:43.310 --> 02:38:46.270 We you know, there's only so much it can take but I see it where water gathers like huge areas where water 02:38:49.350 --> 02:38:51.350 gathers around sidewalk areas because the water isn't flowing 02:38:55.110 --> 02:38:57.110 in terms of liability 02:38:57.990 --> 02:38:59.990 on average, you know, or maybe that city attorney, 02:39:01.430 --> 02:39:03.430 how many claims we get from people 02:39:04.550 --> 02:39:06.550 are are wanting to put in claims for, 02:39:07.470 --> 02:39:09.470 you know, accidents on sidewalks or trees 02:39:10.911 --> 02:39:12.911 that have had limbs fall on cars. 02:39:14.191 --> 02:39:16.191 Actually, I know somebody who was out here 02:39:16.351 --> 02:39:18.351 whose sister had a tree fall on her Mercedes 02:39:20.431 --> 02:39:22.431 and the city wrote a check 02:39:23.511 --> 02:39:24.951 to do. We get a lot of claims. 02:39:26.431 --> 02:39:29.151 I can't speak to the numbers offhand. I don't recall 02:39:30.671 --> 02:39:32.671 perhaps city attorney's office, but I could tell you 02:39:32.751 --> 02:39:34.751 those are definitely the areas that our team has to deal with. 02:39:36.710 --> 02:39:38.710 The attorney's the most. 02:39:38.671 --> 02:39:41.111 I don't have the exact numbers. I can get this for you, 02:39:41.311 --> 02:39:43.311 but I do know that many of the claims 02:39:43.551 --> 02:39:45.551 that come in for personal injury, 02:39:45.591 --> 02:39:48.311 they do relate to sidewalks and trees. Lots of trips, impulse, OK? 02:39:49.791 --> 02:39:51.791 And the reason why I bring up some of these things 02:39:51.911 --> 02:39:53.911 I am able to afford to have like my trees 02:39:57.271 --> 02:39:59.271 trimmed in front of my house. 02:39:59.631 --> 02:40:01.631 But I only do it every so many years. 02:40:03.552 --> 02:40:05.552 The city actually trimmed my trees 02:40:06.632 --> 02:40:08.632 in 2009, if you can believe that or not. 02:40:09.472 --> 02:40:11.472 They put in because I was I was putting in requests, 02:40:12.992 --> 02:40:14.712 requests request. This is before ask Stockton but they got trimmed in in 2009. 02:40:20.392 --> 02:40:22.392 I know that many of our trees because of deferred maintenance 02:40:23.552 --> 02:40:25.552 and you can confirm this or not 02:40:25.592 --> 02:40:27.592 because they have been neglected they are dying due to disease 02:40:30.320 --> 02:40:32.272 on top of, you know droughts that we've experienced 02:40:33.152 --> 02:40:35.712 but it's not just droughts that is that are killing our canopy, correct? Correct. 02:40:37.392 --> 02:40:39.392 So pests you know missile tows runs huge in Stockton. 02:40:41.592 --> 02:40:43.432 And then, you know, if you don't have trimming, you have trees that are, 02:40:44.512 --> 02:40:47.352 you know, I'll say structurally unbalanced. And so you have a heavy wind and tree goes down OK. 02:40:52.330 --> 02:40:54.330 And then 02:40:54.273 --> 02:40:56.273 have you seen some of the wooden curbs. 02:40:57.633 --> 02:40:59.633 Older areas of town. So we have some areas that redwood curbs and granite curbs. 02:41:04.153 --> 02:41:06.153 Mm hmm. Yeah. OK. 02:41:07.730 --> 02:41:09.730 And like I said, 02:41:09.873 --> 02:41:11.873 there are tons of moneys I mean, requests that we have, 02:41:15.433 --> 02:41:17.433 but we don't have tons of money to to put to 02:41:19.730 --> 02:41:21.730 to doing that hearing from Mr. 02:41:21.993 --> 02:41:23.513 Ross yes. I did tell him to come tonight because when he sent me video 02:41:26.553 --> 02:41:29.553 and he showed me his daughter, I was just I mean, I was absolutely heartbroken 02:41:31.673 --> 02:41:33.673 not being able to get your daughter onto the bus 02:41:35.313 --> 02:41:37.313 to go to school and having to go another route to do that. 02:41:39.273 --> 02:41:41.354 I mean, we all want to take the path of least resistance do we not 02:41:42.994 --> 02:41:44.994 get from point A to point B hearing that somebody has, you 02:41:47.740 --> 02:41:49.740 know, had to go to the hospital because of our sidewalk 02:41:51.740 --> 02:41:53.740 with Barbara I just again, breaks my heart. 02:41:54.634 --> 02:41:57.740 So if you haven't figured it out, I'm definitely tree and sidewalk 02:41:59.954 --> 02:42:01.954 because that is something that is a definitely citywide. 02:42:03.514 --> 02:42:05.514 I am very much in support of a fix. 02:42:06.340 --> 02:42:08.340 You would you guys know that because I gave you all of my 02:42:08.394 --> 02:42:10.394 discretionary funds one year because it is a city asset. 02:42:12.274 --> 02:42:14.274 I definitely want to do what we can for that. 02:42:15.994 --> 02:42:17.994 But the direction I'm leaning to is is looking at tree 02:42:20.914 --> 02:42:22.914 maintenance option B 02:42:24.340 --> 02:42:26.340 and sidewalk replacement option B 02:42:28.154 --> 02:42:30.154 and and I want it for everything South of Harding way 02:42:32.195 --> 02:42:35.350 all the lists on South of Harding way. I know I'm not going to get everybody to agree that, 02:42:36.155 --> 02:42:38.155 but I know that that's councilwoman lenses. 02:42:38.315 --> 02:42:40.315 District Now Councilmember Warms Leads, District 02:42:41.435 --> 02:42:43.435 and my district the oldest part of the city. 02:42:44.355 --> 02:42:46.355 So girl power let's do it tonight. 02:42:47.595 --> 02:42:49.595 So and we have a majority of people 02:42:51.155 --> 02:42:53.155 that have reached out to me that have said 02:42:53.315 --> 02:42:55.315 trees and sidewalks trees and sidewalks. 02:42:55.595 --> 02:42:57.435 That's what I get more than anything else is trees and sidewalks. 02:43:00.395 --> 02:43:02.395 So end streets. 02:43:02.795 --> 02:43:04.795 Yes thank you. 02:43:05.195 --> 02:43:07.195 Councilmember Lentz. 02:43:08.195 --> 02:43:10.195 So I want to make this clear with this with 02:43:10.675 --> 02:43:12.675 this money is city manager so this $10 million 02:43:14.955 --> 02:43:16.955 that we're talking about, what exactly is this money? 02:43:19.475 --> 02:43:21.836 I will defer. To our chief. Financial officer to answer that question. 02:43:23.360 --> 02:43:25.360 OK, thank you. Yeah. 02:43:26.956 --> 02:43:28.956 OK, so of the 10.2 that's in front of you 02:43:29.876 --> 02:43:31.876 tonight is what we call general fund dollars. 02:43:33.196 --> 02:43:35.196 So what that means is they're unrestricted they can be spent 02:43:37.436 --> 02:43:40.760 as the council sees fit. And they came from essentially positive results compared 02:43:43.716 --> 02:43:45.716 to what we were anticipating in the previous fiscal year. 02:43:46.756 --> 02:43:48.756 So mostly additional revenues that came in during the pandemic 02:43:50.876 --> 02:43:53.196 when we were anticipating that revenues 02:43:53.196 --> 02:43:55.196 would be lower than what we had seen pre pandemic. 02:43:56.556 --> 02:43:58.556 So are you talking about our fiscal year ending 02:43:59.316 --> 02:44:01.316 June 30th, 2021, correct? Yes. 02:44:03.276 --> 02:44:05.276 So that would be like last fiscal year. 02:44:06.476 --> 02:44:09.196 Nine months is the year we're in right now, not the current one. 02:44:09.396 --> 02:44:12.197 It's ending June 30th. OK, so these are all dollars. 02:44:13.637 --> 02:44:15.637 These are all dollars OK, that we've decided as a council 02:44:17.477 --> 02:44:20.437 that we can spend. Yes. Very safely because we know we have a bill to preserve. 02:44:23.357 --> 02:44:26.317 Is that correct? Yes. So basically when council took action 02:44:26.317 --> 02:44:28.317 in November, we said, OK, we're setting these funds aside. 02:44:29.437 --> 02:44:31.437 We have enough to continue normal operations. 02:44:32.917 --> 02:44:34.917 The money we've set aside will be looked at by the Budget 02:44:35.917 --> 02:44:37.797 Finance Economic Development Committee for a recommendation 02:44:38.797 --> 02:44:40.797 and then brought back to the full council for discussion. 02:44:41.117 --> 02:44:43.877 So that's where we find ourselves tonight. OK, very good. 02:44:44.437 --> 02:44:46.437 So as far as we're very safe to spend this $10 million 02:44:49.237 --> 02:44:51.237 knowing in the current fiscal year that ends next month, 02:44:53.157 --> 02:44:55.157 we're going to also have excess funds hopefully 02:44:56.477 --> 02:44:58.477 and hopefully because we're having a strong year. 02:45:00.518 --> 02:45:02.718 So I agree. I feel that the biggest complaints I get 02:45:05.478 --> 02:45:07.478 sidewalks, trees and 02:45:08.478 --> 02:45:10.478 trees, sidewalks. So 02:45:12.238 --> 02:45:14.238 because they've been so 02:45:15.380 --> 02:45:17.380 not taken care of for so long during the bankruptcy, 02:45:18.158 --> 02:45:20.158 there wasn't any change to take care of our sidewalks and trees. 02:45:21.558 --> 02:45:23.558 So it just got worse. The problem got worse. 02:45:23.918 --> 02:45:25.918 And I know that I mean, I had four calls 02:45:27.758 --> 02:45:29.758 in the last ten days and they were about trees and 02:45:31.878 --> 02:45:34.798 and they're about trees that people either want them taken out, which I think is a shame, 02:45:36.798 --> 02:45:39.198 but it's because they're ruining their sidewalks or so I'm I strongly feel we need to 02:45:42.478 --> 02:45:44.638 and and I hope when we're talking about sidewalk replacements 02:45:46.118 --> 02:45:48.678 and trees that we're also talking about throughout the districts, not we're not dealing with just 02:45:52.839 --> 02:45:54.999 certain and districts. It should be Kristina. 02:45:56.479 --> 02:45:58.479 No, it should be all of our districts 02:45:58.679 --> 02:46:00.679 because we all have those sidewalk issues. 02:46:00.839 --> 02:46:02.839 We all have all of those tree issues. 02:46:03.319 --> 02:46:04.959 But especially the older neighborhoods that like if someone's falling, 02:46:07.399 --> 02:46:09.399 I mean, obviously we want those those taken care of. 02:46:10.959 --> 02:46:12.959 And it would be so nice to be able to bring our trees up. 02:46:14.439 --> 02:46:16.359 And last year when we went to League of Cities and I went to a dinner 02:46:18.599 --> 02:46:20.599 and I sat next to an arborist and he told me that Stockton 02:46:23.799 --> 02:46:25.799 he said he does a lot of tree work in various cities. 02:46:27.239 --> 02:46:29.239 And he said Stockton does a terrible job with their trees. 02:46:30.839 --> 02:46:32.839 And he said and he goes into other cities. 02:46:34.119 --> 02:46:36.119 You might have been at that dinner with me. 02:46:36.239 --> 02:46:38.239 And he said he works for cities 02:46:39.790 --> 02:46:41.790 not as an employee, but as an independent contractor. 02:46:42.880 --> 02:46:45.240 And that's the point he made to me. He said we would 02:46:45.240 --> 02:46:47.240 save more trees in our city if we had someone like him. 02:46:48.360 --> 02:46:51.800 So I really feel like we really probably can't afford an employee. 02:46:52.200 --> 02:46:54.200 That's an arborist, but we certainly could afford 02:46:55.320 --> 02:46:57.320 annually to have an independent contractor, 02:46:57.920 --> 02:46:59.920 I think, go in as an arborist to help save our trees. 02:47:01.360 --> 02:47:03.840 I love Pixie Woods. It opened right before I was born. 02:47:05.000 --> 02:47:07.000 I'm not saying how old I was, but 02:47:08.520 --> 02:47:10.920 I did have my birthday parties there and I would like to see us do some improvements. 02:47:14.600 --> 02:47:16.480 I think this is a little excessive, and even the board agrees but 02:47:19.680 --> 02:47:21.680 I think like walkways should be safe 02:47:22.400 --> 02:47:24.400 because there's grandparents taking their kids there 02:47:25.440 --> 02:47:27.440 in Pixie Woods and I'm not a grandparent yet, 02:47:29.360 --> 02:47:31.360 but what I am, I'm going to take my grandchildren 02:47:31.441 --> 02:47:33.441 to Pixie Woods, and I think we need to 02:47:34.921 --> 02:47:37.100 reduce as many. But I would love to see us make some improvements 02:47:38.201 --> 02:47:40.201 to pixie words because I think that's for the whole city. 02:47:40.681 --> 02:47:42.681 I don't look at that as just being 02:47:43.201 --> 02:47:45.201 in my district or anyone in certain districts. 02:47:46.761 --> 02:47:48.761 So I really would like to see us where the 02:47:49.921 --> 02:47:51.921 the needs are greatest. But, you know, it was nice to hear 02:47:52.441 --> 02:47:55.201 like the walkways need work. That's a good thing to hear. 02:47:55.721 --> 02:47:57.721 Also, I have heard the train ride is out of commission, 02:48:00.810 --> 02:48:02.810 so that's something that I know kids look forward to. 02:48:02.761 --> 02:48:04.761 And that's not probably 02:48:05.161 --> 02:48:07.161 like a replacement, but maybe a major repair. 02:48:07.801 --> 02:48:09.801 So I that's where I stand. 02:48:10.321 --> 02:48:12.321 And as far as McKinley Park, I know someone spoke 02:48:12.761 --> 02:48:15.100 about McKinley Park. We are opening a brand new in we approve 02:48:16.801 --> 02:48:18.801 that at a couple of meetings ago I knew 02:48:19.841 --> 02:48:21.841 well it Victory Park and McKinley Park, they've both been 02:48:24.200 --> 02:48:26.820 approved. So those are in this year's budget already approved. So 02:48:29.282 --> 02:48:31.282 but I would like to see this $10 million spent more around 02:48:34.442 --> 02:48:36.442 districts like District six all of us get a piece of it so 02:48:40.362 --> 02:48:42.362 that's my my thoughts. 02:48:44.442 --> 02:48:46.442 Councilmember Joe. 02:48:46.522 --> 02:48:48.722 Thank you ever. So we remember back when this item came before us 02:48:51.362 --> 02:48:53.322 I think one of the most heated conversations I've had with, said city manager, was 02:48:56.482 --> 02:48:57.882 the money getting pulled out for it to even have the blessing 02:48:59.362 --> 02:49:02.242 of a discussion of what we're doing today that didn't pass very easily. 02:49:02.762 --> 02:49:04.762 That was a pretty heated conversation at this council. 02:49:07.562 --> 02:49:09.242 Four years ago. I got to knock on a lot of doors 02:49:10.323 --> 02:49:12.323 and I get a lot of those doors. 02:49:12.363 --> 02:49:14.363 I walked with my daughter at the time, 02:49:14.603 --> 02:49:16.603 and one of the things 02:49:17.430 --> 02:49:19.430 resound resounding how often you'd hear it is, 02:49:21.763 --> 02:49:23.763 you know, what is there for families to do here? 02:49:23.963 --> 02:49:26.843 Like, what can a family do here? Or you know, I worked in public transportation. 02:49:28.203 --> 02:49:30.203 I work at the county, and I deal with the public so much, 02:49:31.523 --> 02:49:33.430 not just within the city of Stockton, but you talk to people about 02:49:34.603 --> 02:49:36.963 and what they think about Stockton. Well, there's nothing for families to do there. 02:49:38.123 --> 02:49:40.843 I don't want to go there. There's nothing to do. So where do they go? 02:49:41.163 --> 02:49:44.300 They go to cities like Elk Grove. Elk Grove has amenities to offer families 02:49:46.830 --> 02:49:48.830 what amenities do gets people to pay more to live in a house. 02:49:49.803 --> 02:49:51.803 What does that result in incomes that can then be turned back 02:49:53.323 --> 02:49:56.163 into going into your community? What does that do? 02:49:56.163 --> 02:49:58.163 It improves and lifts your community. So 02:49:59.243 --> 02:50:01.243 I can tell you, I hear a lot of complaints and I get 02:50:01.724 --> 02:50:03.724 I have office hours every month about trees, about sidewalks. 02:50:06.964 --> 02:50:08.964 But I don't think that that right now is going to build up 02:50:11.644 --> 02:50:13.644 what I think the council has prioritized year over year. 02:50:16.244 --> 02:50:19.124 And I'll echo Councilmember Fugazi because we don't have enough things for children 02:50:20.404 --> 02:50:22.404 to do in this community that we hear way too often 02:50:24.404 --> 02:50:26.404 and as we deal in address with all the things 02:50:27.400 --> 02:50:29.564 that we're dealing with right now and we say if kids only had 02:50:30.484 --> 02:50:32.484 better options in the community, go do things. 02:50:32.844 --> 02:50:34.844 So what I'm sitting here in November or not, 02:50:35.844 --> 02:50:37.844 when I made that meeting, I left my kid in a hospital 02:50:40.204 --> 02:50:42.884 so I could be here to advocate for that cause I know who's going to take four votes. 02:50:43.444 --> 02:50:45.444 So I drove my butt almost 3 hours to get here 02:50:46.684 --> 02:50:48.684 so I can advocate for those dollars and be the fourth vote 02:50:49.444 --> 02:50:51.685 to even have this discussion. So this to me is super personal because 02:50:54.645 --> 02:50:56.645 I'm a family guy. So 02:50:58.765 --> 02:51:00.765 I want to put my my money where my mouth is. 02:51:00.925 --> 02:51:03.805 I want to put the city's money where their mouth is. I want to prioritize families. 02:51:04.405 --> 02:51:06.405 I think I don't know what our budgets 02:51:06.485 --> 02:51:08.485 going to look like next year, but I have a feeling 02:51:08.645 --> 02:51:10.885 we're gonna have some money, and I feel like we'll be able to address 02:51:11.850 --> 02:51:13.850 a lot of the things that that that folks are saying. 02:51:14.205 --> 02:51:16.485 I'm not sure how many folks in here. Remember in the last three years where we've had excess funds, 02:51:19.245 --> 02:51:21.245 we have put a ton of money into removing 02:51:22.525 --> 02:51:24.525 tree stumps, improving sidewalks and doing these things. 02:51:26.850 --> 02:51:28.645 We've been doing these things so to say that we haven't or it's there, 02:51:29.885 --> 02:51:32.805 that's just shows you how much deferred maintenance we have as a city that we have been doing 02:51:33.965 --> 02:51:35.965 these things and people still aren't seeing it. 02:51:36.885 --> 02:51:38.885 So as I look at some of these things, 02:51:40.500 --> 02:51:42.500 the things that I personally, when I was sitting here 02:51:42.446 --> 02:51:44.446 trying to advocate was putting money into things like Pixy was. 02:51:46.366 --> 02:51:48.366 So does anybody know where the alternative to Pixy Woods are? 02:51:49.886 --> 02:51:51.886 Were probably a lot of people from Stockton Drive to 02:51:52.486 --> 02:51:55.166 anybody know where they go? They go to it's called Fairy Tale Land. 02:51:56.766 --> 02:51:58.966 It's in Sacramento. So, you know, and I'll tell you, because my wife drags 02:52:01.246 --> 02:52:03.806 me up there, I tell her I want to go to Pixie Woods. And I think we've spent more time in pink 02:52:04.460 --> 02:52:06.646 towards in the last couple of years. But Pixie Woods is better and should be better than fairy 02:52:09.600 --> 02:52:11.206 tale land. It's got somewhat it's so much nicer. 02:52:12.860 --> 02:52:14.860 And all it does is you drive around 02:52:14.326 --> 02:52:16.326 like you go in that area and people just need to know 02:52:16.806 --> 02:52:18.806 need to feel like they're safe down there. 02:52:19.246 --> 02:52:20.726 We have my kid's birthday party at Pixie Woods. 02:52:22.806 --> 02:52:24.806 So I to me, I think that is such an easy decision I get. 02:52:27.460 --> 02:52:29.966 We can pull the amusement park out of there. When we were talking about that, we were just I was really just 02:52:31.807 --> 02:52:34.687 I whenever I go, I walk around, I listen. I just see what people are 02:52:34.687 --> 02:52:36.687 and I see the kids lining up for these things 02:52:36.967 --> 02:52:39.607 for the train that doesn't exist half the time. I don't think it's ever been operating. 02:52:40.167 --> 02:52:42.567 And every time I've ever been there or, you know, 02:52:42.567 --> 02:52:44.447 when they want to get on the boat and have to they have to smell diesel. 02:52:45.487 --> 02:52:47.807 They only smell diesel the whole time. That's all they end up smelling because that's 02:52:48.687 --> 02:52:50.687 that's how old the boat is or the lagoon that can't even 02:52:51.647 --> 02:52:54.367 the boat can't even properly operate because the lagoon hasn't been dredged in so long. So 02:52:57.727 --> 02:53:00.367 that's passionate for me because I know as somebody who has a young family, 02:53:01.927 --> 02:53:04.607 if we don't put money into it, people are going to keep going to Sacramento. 02:53:05.407 --> 02:53:07.647 Families are going to stop. It's just going to continue this. 02:53:08.407 --> 02:53:11.870 And and what's going to happen is we're going to be having the same conversation 02:53:12.447 --> 02:53:14.447 over and over again, is we're not a city who 02:53:14.607 --> 02:53:17.607 who wants to focus on families. And we hear way too much. 02:53:19.247 --> 02:53:21.728 So I'm all for trees. And then as far as the pool, 02:53:22.848 --> 02:53:24.848 I can tell you, as someone who has for a lot of friends 02:53:26.488 --> 02:53:28.488 who have kids that swim and kids that swim myself access to, 02:53:30.688 --> 02:53:32.688 I'm fortunate I have a pool at my house. 02:53:33.208 --> 02:53:35.208 I'm a heck I'm part of a house that has a pool 02:53:36.480 --> 02:53:38.480 my neighbors and everybody, I'm around our kids. 02:53:38.808 --> 02:53:41.248 We're good. That's why you see the Oak Park option up there. 02:53:42.448 --> 02:53:45.368 That's not in my district. I'm pushing for that because I want other kids 02:53:46.888 --> 02:53:49.128 who don't have means to have access to pools outside of the 90 days a year 02:53:50.928 --> 02:53:52.928 that they pretty much have it now. Thing is a little bit less. 02:53:53.608 --> 02:53:56.168 So I can tell you, there's a lot of man because once again, 02:53:56.488 --> 02:53:59.480 where do kids go who want access to pools in our city who can't get them? 02:54:00.768 --> 02:54:03.328 I can tell you where they go. Elk Grove. 02:54:03.368 --> 02:54:05.368 They go to Elk Grove because elk Grove has a facility 02:54:06.880 --> 02:54:08.880 that's open and it accommodates kids and access to pools. 02:54:10.649 --> 02:54:12.649 So to me, that's why I pushed for this. 02:54:13.289 --> 02:54:15.289 That's why I drove almost 3 hours from San 02:54:15.889 --> 02:54:18.489 Jose on Tuesday. Everyone knows who's ever made that drive. 02:54:19.289 --> 02:54:21.289 It's not easy to be there and then drive my back there 02:54:22.329 --> 02:54:24.329 so I could be with my kid for the hospital. At night. 02:54:24.849 --> 02:54:27.729 So to me, I'm really passionate. This I'd really like to see. 02:54:27.889 --> 02:54:29.889 Like I'm happy to be with the 500,000 out. 02:54:30.209 --> 02:54:32.209 But what Oak Park does and what the pool does is 02:54:33.649 --> 02:54:36.900 gives access to kids in the city, to pools that they don't have 02:54:37.289 --> 02:54:39.929 always have access to. Why does it have to be heated? 02:54:40.169 --> 02:54:42.449 Because kids aren't going to swim unless you have a heated pool city. 02:54:43.169 --> 02:54:45.169 Stockton ten months out of the year has weather 02:54:46.489 --> 02:54:48.489 that is conducive to swimming. 02:54:49.529 --> 02:54:51.529 Yet we only have pools access to kids 02:54:52.769 --> 02:54:55.329 very small amount of time. So that's why I've been advocating for these things. 02:54:56.929 --> 02:54:58.929 I think it's really important 02:54:59.529 --> 02:55:01.529 that if we really want to put our money where our mouth is, 02:55:02.900 --> 02:55:04.610 we support those things. I'm committed to asking the city manager again 02:55:06.690 --> 02:55:08.650 in this upcoming budget is if we have a healthy financial year 02:55:10.900 --> 02:55:12.490 to addressing those other options. If you look at these options, one of them is a very big chunk. 02:55:15.900 --> 02:55:17.900 I think 5 million was for was for the tree removal. 02:55:18.730 --> 02:55:20.970 And one of the questions I asked at the subcommittee that didn't come out tonight was 02:55:22.210 --> 02:55:24.210 how far is that money take us? 02:55:24.570 --> 02:55:26.570 We don't really have a good plan for treatment. 02:55:27.170 --> 02:55:29.170 It's so Miss, I'm asking you, can you tell me how long 02:55:31.490 --> 02:55:33.490 that $5 million losses before we have to pay $5 million 02:55:34.490 --> 02:55:36.490 again? 02:55:42.690 --> 02:55:44.690 Industry standard, which we don't follow for tree 02:55:45.330 --> 02:55:46.770 maintenance. Usually it's a five year cycle of trimming, 02:55:49.770 --> 02:55:52.731 treating the tree for pests. So given the $5 million this would 02:55:56.110 --> 02:55:58.110 roughly put us at touching 25% of our tree canopy. 02:55:59.931 --> 02:56:01.931 So we get a 25% of our tree canopy and be right back 02:56:02.891 --> 02:56:04.891 where we're at today in less than five years. 02:56:05.110 --> 02:56:07.331 So that's the impact. And do we have a plan in place to how we would then 02:56:09.331 --> 02:56:11.331 maintain that at this point? 02:56:11.851 --> 02:56:13.851 So the important thing to point out with the funding 02:56:14.491 --> 02:56:16.491 consideration is that this is one time spending. 02:56:18.171 --> 02:56:20.171 This is not a annual spending plan. 02:56:22.510 --> 02:56:24.510 So this goes back to my point with is it responsible 02:56:24.931 --> 02:56:27.771 for us to just trim some trees, to make some people happy right now that we're going to be 02:56:28.491 --> 02:56:31.171 in the same problem in a couple of years when we have an opportunity to put our money 02:56:32.211 --> 02:56:34.211 where our mouth is and support the kids? 02:56:34.851 --> 02:56:36.851 We won't have this problem in a couple of years. 02:56:36.931 --> 02:56:38.931 So these are things that are going to benefit 02:56:39.971 --> 02:56:42.932 generations of children and I said, we have a good financial year here. 02:56:44.920 --> 02:56:46.532 I'm happy to make the motion again to pull money out and support sidewalks and trees, 02:56:48.332 --> 02:56:51.920 because I think that we can have a huge impact on that. And I know the gentleman that spoke with with the sidewalk, 02:56:53.772 --> 02:56:56.532 whatever funds I have left in my discretionary funds, you're not even in my district. 02:56:57.520 --> 02:56:59.520 They're yours if they can make an impact. 02:56:59.132 --> 02:57:01.132 So at least me I don't know what the rest of council feels, 02:57:02.652 --> 02:57:04.652 but I strongly want to support 02:57:05.520 --> 02:57:07.520 the pool and Pixie Woods and we'll pull the 500,000 out 02:57:08.612 --> 02:57:10.812 and allocate that somewhere else. But for if we're going to be serious 02:57:11.812 --> 02:57:13.812 and tell this community that we care about kids, 02:57:13.852 --> 02:57:15.852 we should be supporting the projects that support kids 02:57:20.132 --> 02:57:22.132 Councilmember. 02:57:22.292 --> 02:57:24.292 Warms the. 02:57:25.212 --> 02:57:27.212 Thank you so much, Mayor 02:57:28.412 --> 02:57:30.812 hard decisions. But you know, every now and again, 02:57:32.653 --> 02:57:35.573 I got to take a chapter from my parents. Unfortunately, I feel like a parent to 02:57:38.933 --> 02:57:40.933 right now in this moment when I ask my kids what is the need? 02:57:45.173 --> 02:57:47.173 What is our priority 02:57:47.733 --> 02:57:50.930 and I'm sorry to say this, but there are sidewalks 02:57:53.493 --> 02:57:55.493 that probably have been around since 1852 02:57:58.853 --> 02:58:00.853 that should be a priority 02:58:01.173 --> 02:58:03.173 when a couple of weeks ago when it was raining really hard. 02:58:04.493 --> 02:58:06.493 I don't know if you guys saw the story on Fox, 02:58:08.930 --> 02:58:10.930 but it showed areas in South Stockton 02:58:11.253 --> 02:58:13.253 where kids were in miniature boats 02:58:15.930 --> 02:58:17.930 floating to school 02:58:17.533 --> 02:58:20.530 because of the sewage, the sewage, the storm drains and the gutter and all that. 02:58:22.534 --> 02:58:24.534 This is happening in our city in real time. 02:58:26.174 --> 02:58:28.174 So when we talk about sidewalks, it's necessary 02:58:31.534 --> 02:58:33.534 for our young kids to go to school ASAP. 02:58:37.540 --> 02:58:39.540 And not walk in the middle of the street. 02:58:39.934 --> 02:58:41.934 And when you go into areas in south east 02:58:43.654 --> 02:58:45.654 Stockton on Wilson, way on out Alvarado, 02:58:47.854 --> 02:58:49.854 hiding way, this is what you see. 02:58:51.940 --> 02:58:53.940 And I think that we have an obligation 02:58:53.934 --> 02:58:55.934 to protect the safety and the well-being of our kids. 02:58:58.454 --> 02:59:00.454 And I just want to say, 02:59:00.894 --> 02:59:02.894 in respect to Pixie Woods, I've been to Pixie, 02:59:04.140 --> 02:59:06.140 was I patronized Pixie Woods I helped clean Pixie Woods. 02:59:08.534 --> 02:59:10.534 I am a fan of Pixie Woods. 02:59:11.375 --> 02:59:14.950 However, when I drive by that busker golf course 02:59:16.135 --> 02:59:18.135 I see kids playing with sticks and wood. 02:59:20.375 --> 02:59:22.375 They don't have a ride, 02:59:22.575 --> 02:59:24.575 they don't have any activities. 02:59:24.935 --> 02:59:26.935 And that's heartbreaking. 02:59:27.455 --> 02:59:29.455 So I think that 02:59:30.855 --> 02:59:32.855 and then in respect to the pools really, really quick, 02:59:34.575 --> 02:59:36.575 I think that before we start to modify a pool area, 02:59:39.495 --> 02:59:41.495 we must restore an open victory park. 02:59:44.550 --> 02:59:46.550 And McKinley first that has to be the priority 02:59:47.815 --> 02:59:49.815 because it may be another two summers that go by before 02:59:52.495 --> 02:59:54.495 the residents and community members can access those pools. 02:59:58.550 --> 03:00:00.550 So I think that we have to be intentional 03:00:03.296 --> 03:00:05.296 and again, 03:00:05.376 --> 03:00:07.376 getting back to the amusement park rides, I'm a park advocate. 03:00:10.816 --> 03:00:12.816 I always talk about parks but I just know that 03:00:14.560 --> 03:00:16.560 there are other parks and areas in this community 03:00:18.160 --> 03:00:20.160 that have not received any investment. 03:00:21.936 --> 03:00:23.936 I do agree about McKinley 03:00:24.776 --> 03:00:26.776 Park, and I do know that there are fundings earmarked. 03:00:27.936 --> 03:00:29.936 But McKinley Park doesn't have any tennis courts. 03:00:31.160 --> 03:00:33.160 And so I can't not recognize those inadequacies 03:00:38.176 --> 03:00:40.176 in different areas within our city. 03:00:41.496 --> 03:00:43.496 And yes, you drive on California Street 03:00:44.616 --> 03:00:46.616 and it's like you're on a roller coaster. 03:00:47.816 --> 03:00:49.816 You drive down California Street, whether is north 03:00:50.457 --> 03:00:52.457 or south, you look to the right and there aren't any sidewalks. 03:00:56.537 --> 03:00:58.537 So I think that we have to be intentional 03:01:00.577 --> 03:01:02.577 and do what we will tell our kids. 03:01:03.170 --> 03:01:05.170 What is the message, what is a necessity here? 03:01:06.457 --> 03:01:08.457 And I believe that the necessity is 03:01:09.570 --> 03:01:11.570 making sure that our residents, our young people, 03:01:12.577 --> 03:01:14.577 have safe paths to schools, that they can enter and exit 03:01:17.817 --> 03:01:19.817 on their bus, in their car, 03:01:20.537 --> 03:01:22.537 without being injured, 03:01:24.137 --> 03:01:26.137 and that we are preserving our trees. 03:01:27.297 --> 03:01:29.297 And I was sitting right next to council 03:01:29.577 --> 03:01:31.577 member lands when we were talking about 03:01:32.337 --> 03:01:34.337 how Stockton is struggling with tree maintenance. 03:01:35.857 --> 03:01:37.857 This is an opportunity to uplift these communities. 03:01:39.577 --> 03:01:41.577 And I think that this is $10.2 million is not a lot. 03:01:43.738 --> 03:01:46.178 I think that we've heard of other things 03:01:46.178 --> 03:01:48.178 that we can look at in the event we get other funding. 03:01:49.578 --> 03:01:51.458 But right now, it's time to think about the priority of our community, 03:01:55.180 --> 03:01:57.180 bringing those community communities and neighborhoods 03:01:58.978 --> 03:02:00.978 that have been waiting up to speed 03:02:02.178 --> 03:02:04.178 thank you. 03:02:04.658 --> 03:02:06.818 Councilmember Cannava. And thank you. I just have a few questions. 03:02:08.458 --> 03:02:10.458 First one is the capital improvement dollars a year. 03:02:12.658 --> 03:02:14.658 So usually in the budget process, general fund 03:02:16.778 --> 03:02:18.778 money is separate from all of the things 03:02:20.938 --> 03:02:23.178 that we're talking about here. As far as curbing gather and tree maintenance. 03:02:24.698 --> 03:02:26.698 Can I get some clarification on that is. 03:02:28.258 --> 03:02:30.258 Not necessarily curbs and gutter tree maintenance. 03:02:31.619 --> 03:02:33.619 What we should be doing on a regular basis to maintain 03:02:34.259 --> 03:02:36.259 those would be part of the public works operating budget 03:02:36.659 --> 03:02:38.659 which would come out of the city's general fund. 03:02:39.699 --> 03:02:41.699 You mentioned capital we do just over $1,000,000 of 03:02:43.339 --> 03:02:45.339 general fund dollars towards capital on an annual basis, 03:02:46.539 --> 03:02:48.539 which is very low considering the assets that the city. 03:02:49.979 --> 03:02:51.979 Has so people should be more aware. 03:02:52.259 --> 03:02:54.259 So for the whole city, we're spending $1 million 03:02:55.979 --> 03:02:57.979 annually on capital improvement projects, OK, from. 03:02:59.459 --> 03:03:01.299 The general fund. I mean, general general fund. 03:03:02.990 --> 03:03:04.990 OK, so then how much of the regular money goes out? 03:03:04.979 --> 03:03:07.219 So I mean, that's all the paving. And our annual capital plan 03:03:09.379 --> 03:03:11.379 is around 160 million really. 03:03:12.139 --> 03:03:14.939 It's a, it's a large, but a lot of that's our utilities are municipal utilities doing 03:03:16.979 --> 03:03:18.979 water, wastewater and stormwater improvements. 03:03:19.739 --> 03:03:21.739 And then a lot of it's gas tax dollars and other restricted 03:03:25.620 --> 03:03:27.620 public funds that are for capital improvements. 03:03:28.220 --> 03:03:29.980 OK, so we're actually general fund money and funding those departments. 03:03:33.600 --> 03:03:35.600 If I may add, can I submit 03:03:37.780 --> 03:03:39.460 on an annual basis as a city for non 03:03:41.660 --> 03:03:43.660 utility related capital investments? 03:03:45.140 --> 03:03:47.140 We're investing $1,000,000 a year. 03:03:47.580 --> 03:03:50.420 You're correct, of our own money 03:03:52.300 --> 03:03:54.300 which we add to whatever we can garner 03:03:54.700 --> 03:03:56.700 from federal moneys and state moneys. 03:03:57.600 --> 03:03:59.600 But in terms of our own direct contribution 03:04:00.420 --> 03:04:02.420 to something like this, it's $1,000,000 a year. 03:04:04.200 --> 03:04:06.200 We get state dollars, we get federal dollars 03:04:07.860 --> 03:04:09.860 for capital projects as well. 03:04:09.940 --> 03:04:11.940 But in terms of our own money, it's $1,000,000. 03:04:13.301 --> 03:04:15.901 OK, and what was that? What was the backlog on that 03:04:16.821 --> 03:04:18.821 for all those capital improvement projects? 03:04:19.141 --> 03:04:21.141 If somebody could speak to that number. 03:04:22.610 --> 03:04:24.610 I'm going to turn that over to our public works director 03:04:27.541 --> 03:04:29.381 Councilman Count, if I don't have that off the top of my head. 03:04:30.621 --> 03:04:32.621 OK, there were a lot of money. That's a lot of backlog. 03:04:33.301 --> 03:04:35.301 Millions, hundred plus million dollars I mean, 03:04:36.661 --> 03:04:39.101 so it depends where you want to start. You know, facilities, parks, roads, 03:04:42.541 --> 03:04:44.541 I mean, you name it, we're not spending what we should. 03:04:46.381 --> 03:04:48.381 So that's that's the hardest part is what prioritization 03:04:49.541 --> 03:04:51.461 we have in addressing this, whether it's South Stockton or Stockton. 03:04:53.901 --> 03:04:55.901 I mean, I'm the chair of this committee, 03:04:55.981 --> 03:04:57.981 so I'm pretty neutral not of my area. 03:04:58.261 --> 03:05:00.581 Projects are on the list so that people are not saying, oh, it's all for 03:05:01.902 --> 03:05:03.902 whatever you want individually. 03:05:04.342 --> 03:05:06.342 So the other thing that is, is what is the emergency tree crew? 03:05:08.702 --> 03:05:10.702 Do we know what that annually costs us? 03:05:11.342 --> 03:05:13.742 Because everyone saying, you know, it's saying, hey, is it is it feasible to maybe do that 03:05:15.542 --> 03:05:17.542 to have our own tree crew go and start maintaining no. 03:05:19.742 --> 03:05:22.182 So it's more bang for the buck having an outside person or company, West Coast Arborist. 03:05:25.302 --> 03:05:27.702 So we have West Coast arborist who assist us with emergency triage only. 03:05:29.662 --> 03:05:31.662 So as needed, like when we have storms, we can't keep up. 03:05:33.782 --> 03:05:35.782 We do have one crew there's no way 03:05:36.422 --> 03:05:38.622 the one crew can't keep up with just the triage that we're doing. 03:05:38.982 --> 03:05:40.982 This is very reactive work. 03:05:41.342 --> 03:05:42.942 There's no way. So the scope of duty for that one crew is already 03:05:44.942 --> 03:05:46.942 they're overburdened with. Maxed out. 03:05:47.102 --> 03:05:49.302 With the calls that they would have. So to do it correctly, how many tree crews 03:05:51.743 --> 03:05:53.743 would we probably have to have built that 03:05:54.143 --> 03:05:56.143 with the three people on tree green. Multiple crews at least. 03:05:56.983 --> 03:05:58.983 But we have such a overwhelming start up again 03:06:00.230 --> 03:06:02.230 because we haven't touched trees in 15 years. 03:06:04.263 --> 03:06:06.863 It's really it's not fair for me to answer that because I really don't know. 03:06:09.743 --> 03:06:12.343 And so then obviously the liability of tree crews, I mean it's not an easy job. 03:06:14.383 --> 03:06:16.383 So I'd imagine insurance wise and workers comp wise, 03:06:18.103 --> 03:06:20.103 the cost of having our own tree crews 03:06:22.143 --> 03:06:24.143 you have more data for me, I like data. 03:06:24.463 --> 03:06:26.463 So we're looking at some of the budget request we sent in. 03:06:27.463 --> 03:06:29.463 OK, and 03:06:33.143 --> 03:06:34.743 holy moly. Sorry, I need bifocals. 03:06:35.383 --> 03:06:37.383 I'm sorry, 03:06:37.863 --> 03:06:40.343 but just trees, right? So going back to the question you asked, what's our deferred 03:06:41.264 --> 03:06:43.264 maintenance is just under $50 million just in trees alone. 03:06:44.344 --> 03:06:46.344 50 million. 03:06:46.944 --> 03:06:48.464 To. Everything. That's all. Right. Obviously everywhere. 03:06:49.624 --> 03:06:51.624 And if I may add to that, sorry, you know, 03:06:53.664 --> 03:06:55.664 perhaps, you know, way of thinking about 03:06:58.344 --> 03:07:00.344 when you have the opportunity to have surplus funds 03:07:01.464 --> 03:07:03.464 that carry over or if you have the opportunity to receive, 03:07:08.584 --> 03:07:10.624 you know, unprecedented funding from the feds like we've have Kahrizak, RPA, 03:07:13.824 --> 03:07:16.664 you know, perhaps you know, a good way of thinking about it and thinking through it is 03:07:18.584 --> 03:07:20.584 what is the highest and best use of this one time money? 03:07:21.824 --> 03:07:23.584 You know, what's, what's the highest and best use as an opportunity to 03:07:26.384 --> 03:07:28.384 to get ahead in certain categories and areas 03:07:30.505 --> 03:07:32.505 or to just catch up in certain categories areas 03:07:35.905 --> 03:07:37.905 but without this money, you would have no opportunity 03:07:38.825 --> 03:07:40.545 to do that. So it's a way of thinking about 03:07:41.825 --> 03:07:43.825 this one time money, their investments 03:07:45.745 --> 03:07:47.745 and I would just say that and encourage the thinking 03:07:49.385 --> 03:07:51.385 to be oriented towards highest and best use of the money. 03:07:53.985 --> 03:07:55.905 Well, so highest and best uses of money is hard when you've neglected things 03:07:57.705 --> 03:07:59.705 for so long. So you've got to start someplace. 03:08:01.905 --> 03:08:03.905 So that that's that's my hard part. 03:08:04.905 --> 03:08:07.305 Of making the decision. And I see Sal's passion at the other end of the dais, 03:08:09.785 --> 03:08:11.785 and I see the inequality and the fairness of what areas 03:08:13.745 --> 03:08:15.745 don't have you know, equitable, curb and gutter. 03:08:16.305 --> 03:08:18.705 And you know what I mean? But we're back to that same argument. 03:08:19.465 --> 03:08:21.465 Where do we split this $10 million up? 03:08:21.786 --> 03:08:23.146 And who's going to make the motion to do it is going to be interesting. 03:08:26.266 --> 03:08:28.266 So so but anyway, so 03:08:29.426 --> 03:08:32.386 those are the things as a council person, which I am aware of, that you know, 03:08:33.346 --> 03:08:35.346 what people's needs are, what different areas needs are, 03:08:37.266 --> 03:08:40.660 children's needs, quality of life needs. So, I mean, it's not as easy as just picking 03:08:41.666 --> 03:08:44.506 for an underserved part of the community when it's sad to hear that 03:08:45.306 --> 03:08:47.306 kids don't go in certain areas to see Woods. 03:08:48.546 --> 03:08:51.466 It is it is a gem. But I mean, you know, what amount of money are we going to allocate 03:08:53.706 --> 03:08:56.546 for that and like you said, what what do you get the most bang for your buck and current time? 03:08:58.746 --> 03:09:01.106 So those are my comments. Thank you. 03:09:02.826 --> 03:09:04.826 Yes. And I was just going to remind us all 03:09:04.906 --> 03:09:06.906 that this is one time money that we're we're working 03:09:09.660 --> 03:09:11.660 with right now and where we do 03:09:12.147 --> 03:09:14.147 anticipate subsequent years from from this care 03:09:16.827 --> 03:09:18.827 budget carry over better financial performance 03:09:21.867 --> 03:09:23.867 priorities of this council 03:09:24.587 --> 03:09:26.587 may look a little bit different when it comes time 03:09:28.270 --> 03:09:30.270 for us to make the decision and how we allocate 03:09:33.107 --> 03:09:35.107 or prioritize those future one time, one time funds. 03:09:39.187 --> 03:09:41.187 I do have a question for Director Massey, and that is 03:09:44.227 --> 03:09:46.227 how many current pools in Stockton 03:09:50.107 --> 03:09:52.907 are operable? All right. 03:09:53.270 --> 03:09:54.787 Give me a second. I got to think this through McKinley, out victory, out 03:09:59.827 --> 03:10:01.827 OK, Sousa, 03:10:03.948 --> 03:10:05.948 Brooking. 03:10:06.148 --> 03:10:08.148 And then it depends if you want to add the fountain in there. 03:10:09.708 --> 03:10:11.188 Holiday. Yeah, that's right. 03:10:12.628 --> 03:10:15.188 And that's that's it. Holiday. Brooking Oaks user four pools plus the fountain. 03:10:17.868 --> 03:10:20.588 For pools are operable. And for the record, those pools are what, 03:10:22.680 --> 03:10:25.280 the names of those walls. Sure. Thing. Holiday, Holiday Park, Brooklyn Pool Oak and Sousa. 03:10:28.908 --> 03:10:30.908 Oak Park and Susan Sousa. 03:10:30.988 --> 03:10:32.988 OK, and how many are inoperable? 03:10:34.468 --> 03:10:36.468 McKinley and Victory are both down. 03:10:37.148 --> 03:10:39.148 OK, in design. 03:10:40.228 --> 03:10:42.268 In design. Victory Park is scheduled for awarding the design contract 03:10:44.908 --> 03:10:47.468 at the next city council meeting. OK, so technically not quite there. 03:10:49.228 --> 03:10:51.228 OK, OK. 03:10:51.509 --> 03:10:53.509 You know, I believe that pools 03:10:55.829 --> 03:10:57.829 are quality of life for for our youth. 03:10:59.290 --> 03:11:01.290 I believe that that to be true. 03:11:01.709 --> 03:11:03.709 But I also believe that 03:11:03.749 --> 03:11:05.749 streets, sidewalks and potholes 03:11:07.269 --> 03:11:09.269 and trees are are just as important 03:11:11.290 --> 03:11:13.290 for from a quality of life standpoint as we're looking at 03:11:16.349 --> 03:11:18.109 you're making decisions regarding this $10.2 million. 03:11:21.789 --> 03:11:23.789 I do value Pixie Woods. 03:11:24.229 --> 03:11:26.229 I do value what it's done for our community. 03:11:27.429 --> 03:11:29.429 I think we can all agree I've heard a couple of board 03:11:30.549 --> 03:11:32.549 members mentioned earlier it may be a little excessive 03:11:34.290 --> 03:11:36.290 with what's being presented here today. 03:11:37.709 --> 03:11:39.709 I you know, if we're looking at parks, 03:11:40.390 --> 03:11:42.390 if we're looking at you know, which Pixie Woods would fall 03:11:43.470 --> 03:11:45.470 under that category of a park of some sort 03:11:48.630 --> 03:11:50.630 with this one time money, I think it's important 03:11:51.150 --> 03:11:53.150 that we have a little bit more of an equitable 03:11:55.190 --> 03:11:57.190 distribution of this funding and how it's impacting 03:11:59.350 --> 03:12:01.350 the best use of this money. 03:12:01.710 --> 03:12:04.710 Right. That the best the best use. So I'll give you a specific example is 03:12:08.700 --> 03:12:10.700 I went out to Oak Park, OK, but not the pool. 03:12:12.390 --> 03:12:14.390 I went to the baseball diamonds 03:12:16.950 --> 03:12:18.950 for Northern Little League. 03:12:20.390 --> 03:12:22.390 I want to say there was a little bit of renovations in 17, 18, 03:12:23.830 --> 03:12:25.830 or there was some commitment of some sort 03:12:28.700 --> 03:12:30.910 but major upgrades and even basic upgrades and renovations really, truly 03:12:34.391 --> 03:12:36.391 haven't been made for decades. 03:12:38.310 --> 03:12:40.311 Out there. When I when I walk out there on the dime, you know, 03:12:43.351 --> 03:12:45.351 walk out there on the baseball field at Northern Little League 03:12:46.591 --> 03:12:48.591 with with some of those board members, 03:12:49.151 --> 03:12:51.151 and it's like almost 90 degrees that day. 03:12:53.631 --> 03:12:55.631 And I walk onto the field and I, I sit down 03:12:56.911 --> 03:12:58.911 and then I walk over and I sit down in the dugout. 03:12:59.391 --> 03:13:01.391 I sit in the dugout and in the dugout there 03:13:03.151 --> 03:13:05.151 are, there's, there's no covering in the dugout. 03:13:06.911 --> 03:13:08.911 The fences are dilapidated. 03:13:10.671 --> 03:13:12.671 And I asked, I said, I asked the board members. 03:13:14.551 --> 03:13:16.551 I said, so tell me 03:13:16.791 --> 03:13:18.791 how does this work when they're when they're playing? 03:13:19.551 --> 03:13:21.551 So when they come, I feel they they 03:13:21.832 --> 03:13:24.352 and they come out from the outfield in a blazing heat, they come and sit down right here 03:13:27.592 --> 03:13:30.352 is their covering. There's no covering 03:13:33.720 --> 03:13:34.752 when you think about baseball in the city of Stockton, 03:13:37.720 --> 03:13:39.720 it's one of the major sports baseball, 03:13:41.720 --> 03:13:43.720 soccer that reaches across this city. 03:13:46.352 --> 03:13:48.352 And Oak Park in Northern 03:13:49.432 --> 03:13:51.432 League is one of the main facilities 03:13:52.552 --> 03:13:54.552 that meets the greater need of our baseball and our softball 03:13:55.752 --> 03:13:57.752 players, boys and girls alike for our community. 03:14:00.392 --> 03:14:03.192 My correct so when I talk about, you know, 03:14:04.912 --> 03:14:06.912 when I consider a more equitable distribution, 03:14:08.792 --> 03:14:10.792 that would be the best use to make the greatest impact 03:14:12.713 --> 03:14:14.713 with this one time dollars. 03:14:15.513 --> 03:14:17.513 What comes to my mind is Northern Little 03:14:18.873 --> 03:14:20.873 League is an opportune city for the city 03:14:22.833 --> 03:14:24.833 to play some sort of scale of investment 03:14:26.313 --> 03:14:28.313 into that park where hundreds upon hundreds of kids 03:14:32.273 --> 03:14:34.273 from throughout our city will benefit from that, 03:14:37.953 --> 03:14:39.953 let alone just the basic 03:14:40.833 --> 03:14:42.833 safety and quality of life that they have 03:14:43.833 --> 03:14:46.330 while they're playing the sport that they dream to one day become a major leaguer. 03:14:48.393 --> 03:14:50.313 Right. So that's just one of, I'm sure, several examples 03:14:54.393 --> 03:14:56.393 that many of us can share on this dais 03:14:58.353 --> 03:15:00.353 of what would be potential best use. 03:15:02.314 --> 03:15:04.314 Now, I'm not saying that that that I don't support 03:15:07.394 --> 03:15:09.394 Pixie Woods in any potential upgrades, 03:15:10.314 --> 03:15:12.314 but what I am saying is that 03:15:13.234 --> 03:15:15.234 we definitely need to reconsider 03:15:15.914 --> 03:15:17.914 this this this allocation 03:15:18.474 --> 03:15:20.474 for that best use so that we can maximize 03:15:21.874 --> 03:15:23.874 we can maximize this one time funding 03:15:24.194 --> 03:15:26.194 to make the greatest impact in our city 03:15:27.834 --> 03:15:29.834 specifically for our young people 03:15:34.994 --> 03:15:37.954 Vice Mayor Fugazi. Yes. Thank you. 03:15:38.714 --> 03:15:41.714 I have another question for you. So Councilmember 03:15:41.714 --> 03:15:43.714 Walmsley brought up something and jumped into my head. 03:15:44.674 --> 03:15:46.674 She was talking about, you know, being able to walk safely to schools, you know, 03:15:49.234 --> 03:15:51.675 because of our sidewalks. And I know I've brought this up before but Mt. 03:15:53.515 --> 03:15:55.515 Diablo and Buena Vista Victory School was awarded 03:15:58.350 --> 03:16:00.350 a Safe Routes to school grant from Caltrans. 03:16:01.435 --> 03:16:03.435 Am I correct? What is it? Caltrans are the hyssop. 03:16:05.275 --> 03:16:07.435 It was ATP. I can't remember if it was through the Caltrans 03:16:08.395 --> 03:16:11.115 or if it was through J COGS funding. It was definitely ATP dollars. 03:16:11.675 --> 03:16:13.675 Right and I have that was, what, maybe 03:16:15.435 --> 03:16:17.435 three years ago, two or three years ago. 03:16:17.595 --> 03:16:20.435 And the residents have been saying, you know, councilwoman, when are we getting our sidewalk? 03:16:22.155 --> 03:16:24.675 When are we getting our sidewalk? Now we got several that year. 03:16:26.395 --> 03:16:28.395 And why haven't those projects come to fruition? 03:16:30.195 --> 03:16:32.715 Is it related to I mean, 03:16:32.715 --> 03:16:34.875 because we don't have enough funding because we can't do all the sidewalks and stuff 03:16:37.635 --> 03:16:39.635 we need to do. Or why is that? 03:16:40.596 --> 03:16:43.436 We were awarded I want to say for that one, we were awarded only the partial request. 03:16:46.516 --> 03:16:48.516 I think we got just under 3 million. 03:16:50.356 --> 03:16:52.356 And it's in the design phase. 03:16:53.436 --> 03:16:55.436 And so where that left us is that we only have 03:16:56.116 --> 03:16:58.116 the partial funding for construction. 03:16:59.516 --> 03:17:01.516 We still to include all five of the schools 03:17:02.756 --> 03:17:04.756 that were in that grant. 03:17:05.360 --> 03:17:07.360 We still need almost another $3 million. 03:17:07.636 --> 03:17:09.636 OK, so that's not included in this number here. 03:17:10.396 --> 03:17:12.396 This is just for ones that need repair, not for new ones. 03:17:14.356 --> 03:17:16.356 Not for new installs. 03:17:16.676 --> 03:17:19.360 But I mean, when we talk about this backlog of sidewalk locations, this is for you say repairs, 03:17:21.996 --> 03:17:23.996 but that is really a replacement. OK. 03:17:25.116 --> 03:17:26.876 Thank you. I want to say to that, you know, I agree 03:17:29.676 --> 03:17:31.676 that we need to be addressing the needs of an Buskirk. 03:17:33.957 --> 03:17:35.957 I know that when we talk about 03:17:37.357 --> 03:17:39.357 other things like an aquatic center, 03:17:39.437 --> 03:17:41.437 I'd love to have an aquatic center as well. 03:17:42.957 --> 03:17:44.957 But again, I'm thinking about needs 03:17:45.597 --> 03:17:47.597 versus wants them. 03:17:48.157 --> 03:17:50.157 Buskirk has needs. 03:17:50.637 --> 03:17:52.637 The pool we have the pools that we have that are working. 03:17:54.397 --> 03:17:56.957 Let's keep those working. Let's get Victory Park built. 03:17:58.157 --> 03:18:00.157 Let's get McKinley built 03:18:00.877 --> 03:18:02.877 and then we can go back and look at the pools 03:18:03.717 --> 03:18:05.717 for upgrading or the possibility for an aquatic center. 03:18:09.757 --> 03:18:11.757 And the comment about trees really rubbed me the wrong way. 03:18:13.770 --> 03:18:15.770 And I want to explain why 03:18:15.397 --> 03:18:18.197 that oh, we're only going to do a few of them. And what's that going to do if you've ever had a cavity 03:18:20.998 --> 03:18:22.998 just think about a tooth that you don't pay attention to 03:18:26.380 --> 03:18:28.380 and you don't address the needs of that tooth. 03:18:28.718 --> 03:18:31.478 What ends up happening to it? It starts to rot, 03:18:31.918 --> 03:18:33.918 and then you need a root canal and then you need other things. 03:18:35.380 --> 03:18:37.380 I mean, I just I think that us just thinking, 03:18:39.198 --> 03:18:42.380 oh, we're not going to take care of trees because what's it going to do in five years? 03:18:42.878 --> 03:18:44.878 You're going to need it again. 03:18:45.780 --> 03:18:47.780 That's like not taking care of dry rot on your house 03:18:47.998 --> 03:18:50.438 and then it spreads out other place. I mean, we don't want to just not address it. 03:18:52.678 --> 03:18:54.678 I think we've not addressed it for far too long as it is. 03:18:56.518 --> 03:18:58.518 So I'm prepared to make a motion I also want to bring up 03:19:00.678 --> 03:19:02.838 with Pixie Woods. In the last ten months, there's been three cleanups 03:19:05.878 --> 03:19:07.878 of Pixie Woods building trades has participated in that. 03:19:09.598 --> 03:19:11.598 The community has come out like never before, that 03:19:12.799 --> 03:19:15.679 as long as I've been on council, we did 450,000 to Pixie Woods for tree trimming. 03:19:18.999 --> 03:19:20.999 Brush removal, suspension, bridge replacement, 03:19:22.399 --> 03:19:24.399 irrigation automation at our November meeting. 03:19:25.639 --> 03:19:28.199 So I want to put that out there. But again, my motion well, my motion is going to be option 03:19:31.679 --> 03:19:33.679 B, the 5 million for trees, option B, 4 million 03:19:35.199 --> 03:19:37.919 for sidewalks. And I would say with the remaining 03:19:39.439 --> 03:19:41.439 1.2 million to Pixie Woods, which is which is a nice amount 03:19:44.159 --> 03:19:46.159 to get things done 03:19:46.679 --> 03:19:48.679 at Pixie Woods, is it going to get everything done no, 03:19:49.599 --> 03:19:51.599 but I don't think Pixie Woods has received that kind of money. 03:19:53.399 --> 03:19:55.399 I know they didn't receive 150,000 like that from the city 03:19:57.399 --> 03:19:59.399 in the last 12 years. 03:19:59.519 --> 03:20:01.519 I could go back further, but looking at Pixie Woods 03:20:03.240 --> 03:20:05.240 in just this, carryover funds getting 1.65 million, 03:20:08.640 --> 03:20:10.640 I think that's a great start and if we have more money, 03:20:12.240 --> 03:20:14.840 we can go there and revisit it. But my motion is one point to the Pixie Woods 03:20:17.280 --> 03:20:19.280 Option B for trees and option B for sidewalks. 03:20:21.160 --> 03:20:22.840 That's my motion. Before we move forward with the motion, there are still 03:20:25.120 --> 03:20:27.120 additional comments to me by the Member 03:20:27.480 --> 03:20:29.480 Council, so Councilmember Joe Breck added. 03:20:30.480 --> 03:20:32.440 It's a point of order. We, we have to address hers. 03:20:33.520 --> 03:20:35.520 So and I was only pushing my button the time it comes. 03:20:36.240 --> 03:20:38.240 So we have to address before we can do anything else 03:20:39.120 --> 03:20:41.120 on a point of. Order 03:20:43.600 --> 03:20:45.560 OK, well. We have a second. 03:20:46.960 --> 03:20:48.960 OK, I would second that motion. 03:20:53.410 --> 03:20:55.410 Now they cast your votes with where we at. 03:20:56.561 --> 03:20:58.561 Now say that we city attorney. 03:20:59.281 --> 03:21:02.281 Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Clarify the current motion on table. 03:21:03.521 --> 03:21:05.521 OK, so the motion is to choose option 03:21:06.401 --> 03:21:08.401 B to allocate $5 million to trees. 03:21:09.401 --> 03:21:11.401 Option B to allocate $4 million for sidewalks 03:21:13.810 --> 03:21:15.810 and the remainder of 1.2 million to go to Pixie Woods. 03:21:17.810 --> 03:21:19.810 And that motion was made by Vice Mayor Fugazi and seconded 03:21:20.601 --> 03:21:22.601 by Councilmember Lenz 03:21:28.681 --> 03:21:30.100 Kilmer. Make an amendment to that. 03:21:31.410 --> 03:21:33.241 You may propose an amendment. Yes. OK, 03:21:35.121 --> 03:21:37.121 I would like to amend 03:21:37.721 --> 03:21:39.721 carving out 95,000 03:21:41.420 --> 03:21:43.420 for Northern Little League improvement. 03:21:45.820 --> 03:21:47.882 From where. And from the contingency. 03:21:50.442 --> 03:21:52.442 95,000 to for the Northern Little League fencing. Yes. 03:21:55.562 --> 03:21:57.562 And so since the motion maker was Vice Mayor Fugazi, 03:21:59.482 --> 03:22:01.482 we just need to see if she wants to accept that. 03:22:01.642 --> 03:22:03.642 I accept that. And councilmember lands as the second. 03:22:04.482 --> 03:22:06.482 Do you accept that amendment as well. I accept that. 03:22:06.962 --> 03:22:08.962 OK so it's an accepted so the motion as amended is now 03:22:12.842 --> 03:22:14.482 city attorney. Can we get a little clarification because the 03:22:15.882 --> 03:22:17.882 the motion as originally stated added up to 10.2 million. 03:22:20.162 --> 03:22:22.162 So there's no contingency left in there. 03:22:23.420 --> 03:22:25.962 So we do need data. So be one. .10 5 million for Pixie Woods 03:22:29.322 --> 03:22:31.322 and 95,000 to Northern Little Lake. 03:22:33.363 --> 03:22:35.363 Thank you. 03:22:35.763 --> 03:22:37.763 Wanted clarification. 03:22:37.803 --> 03:22:39.803 Are we are you suggesting this 03:22:41.163 --> 03:22:43.163 for a particular Little League or a particular field. 03:22:45.883 --> 03:22:47.883 For the field at Oak Park? 03:22:48.123 --> 03:22:50.123 The field at Oak Park 03:22:59.523 --> 03:23:01.243 so for the record, please restate the motion to attorney. 03:23:03.963 --> 03:23:05.963 And I just want clarification on that dollar amount. 03:23:06.763 --> 03:23:08.763 Kim for OK so it's for the pixie woods amount is what now. 03:23:10.923 --> 03:23:12.923 1,005,000. 03:23:13.283 --> 03:23:15.283 Dollars. OK OK. 03:23:16.883 --> 03:23:18.883 I'm sorry. 03:23:19.283 --> 03:23:21.283 OK, so the motion now is option. 03:23:22.124 --> 03:23:24.484 B, allocating five. Million dollars to trees. 03:23:25.324 --> 03:23:27.324 Option B allocating $4 million to sidewalks, 03:23:29.524 --> 03:23:31.524 1,005,000 03:23:32.364 --> 03:23:34.364 to pixie woods and 95,000 03:23:35.724 --> 03:23:37.724 for the Oak Park field to take care of the fencing. Yes. 03:23:40.964 --> 03:23:43.400 And that amended motion was accepted by Vice Mayor Fugazi. 03:23:45.764 --> 03:23:47.764 It was accepted by Lenz, by Councilmember Lenz. 03:23:49.404 --> 03:23:52.400 And so now you need a vote. The math is wrong. 03:23:52.924 --> 03:23:54.404 Sorry. It would be $1,105,000. 03:24:01.644 --> 03:24:04.400 The number four. Northern Little League. That's to take out the fence. 03:24:05.524 --> 03:24:07.524 Is that 03:24:08.764 --> 03:24:10.844 going to be enough? Have we vetted that number? 03:24:10.925 --> 03:24:13.245 I'm just a little concerned. If we add that in. 03:24:15.165 --> 03:24:17.525 There, we could do a hundred thousand just instead of 90. Five. 03:24:17.845 --> 03:24:20.565 100,000 instead of 99. Hey, that makes any math easier too. 03:24:21.485 --> 03:24:23.445 So yeah. OK, so 1.1 million, two Pixie Woods, 100,000 03:24:26.645 --> 03:24:28.645 for Oak Park, a baseball field 03:24:30.845 --> 03:24:32.845 improvement, and then 03:24:33.685 --> 03:24:35.685 5 million for the trees 03:24:36.125 --> 03:24:38.125 and 4 million for the sidewalks. 03:24:39.765 --> 03:24:41.765 Is that 10.2 million 03:24:42.965 --> 03:24:44.965 yes. On my head. 03:24:45.125 --> 03:24:47.205 I didn't write it. OK, City Attorney, one more time for the record, please. 03:24:49.725 --> 03:24:51.725 OK, so the motion is now option B allocating $5 million 03:24:53.725 --> 03:24:55.525 for trees. Option B, allocating $4, million for sidewalks, 03:24:58.445 --> 03:25:00.445 1.1 million to Pixie Woods 03:25:01.326 --> 03:25:03.326 and $100,000 to the Oak Park. 03:25:04.446 --> 03:25:06.446 Baseball field improvements. 03:25:07.566 --> 03:25:09.566 Catching roads, police. 03:25:16.486 --> 03:25:18.486 Motion passes four to two with. 03:25:18.606 --> 03:25:20.606 Councilmember Wright recusing himself. 03:25:23.246 --> 03:25:25.246 Yes. OK, thank you. 03:25:25.806 --> 03:25:27.806 At this time, let's take a five minute recess. 03:25:29.526 --> 03:25:31.526 Actually, it's my turn back at eight or five. 03:25:36.846 --> 03:25:38.846 In with I. 03:25:50.847 --> 03:25:52.847 Call the meeting back to order. 03:25:53.700 --> 03:25:55.887 Agenda item ten public hearings. 10.1 public hearing fiscal year. 03:25:58.727 --> 03:26:00.727 20, 20, 23 Annual Action Plan for the Community Develop 03:26:03.607 --> 03:26:05.607 Development Block Grant Home Investment Partnership 03:26:06.927 --> 03:26:08.927 and Emergency Solutions Grant Programs Staff. 03:26:10.367 --> 03:26:12.807 You have the floor to present. Actually, actually I now declare the public hearing open staff. 03:26:15.847 --> 03:26:17.847 You have the floor to present. Thank you. Thank you. 03:26:18.487 --> 03:26:20.287 So good evening. Mayor Lincoln and Council members. 03:26:21.207 --> 03:26:23.207 I'm Ty Wilson Robinson with the Economic 03:26:23.647 --> 03:26:26.287 Development Department. And I have prepared a very brief PowerPoint for you 03:26:28.807 --> 03:26:30.807 to review on the annual action plan. 03:26:32.487 --> 03:26:34.487 So the 03:26:35.127 --> 03:26:37.127 annual action plan is due to hurdle by May 15th. 03:26:38.647 --> 03:26:40.647 This is the annual date that is due the action plan allocation. 03:26:42.448 --> 03:26:44.448 Mr City's five year consolidated I'm sorry, 03:26:45.968 --> 03:26:47.968 this city's five year consolidated plan goals 03:26:48.928 --> 03:26:50.928 to serve over 15,000 low income residents. 03:26:52.288 --> 03:26:54.808 Additionally, the plan identifies the proposed activities that will be funded with CDBG, 03:26:56.968 --> 03:26:58.968 ESG and Home Investment Partnership funds. 03:27:00.880 --> 03:27:02.880 The recommended allocations were prepared by staff. 03:27:03.248 --> 03:27:05.248 The CDC with the allowance for public input 03:27:08.448 --> 03:27:10.448 and preparation 03:27:11.928 --> 03:27:14.648 in preparation for the annual plan. Staff starts the process around 03:27:15.248 --> 03:27:17.248 six months before the application is due to HUD. 03:27:19.208 --> 03:27:21.208 The process consists of hosting CTC community meetings 03:27:22.808 --> 03:27:24.808 that outline the various processes that will need to be completed 03:27:27.880 --> 03:27:29.880 and followed by nonprofit agencies and the CDC. 03:27:29.888 --> 03:27:31.888 In regards to scoring and ranking of applications. 03:27:33.129 --> 03:27:35.929 So here's our timeline. In November, 03:27:36.369 --> 03:27:38.369 we had the annual kickoff, which was an informational 03:27:40.169 --> 03:27:42.489 December 17 and No. Four was issued for the City Ministry and ESG programs, 03:27:45.569 --> 03:27:47.569 January 10th to annual. 03:27:47.889 --> 03:27:49.889 We had another informational mee 03:27:53.489 --> 03:27:55.489 The application process was closed. 03:27:56.889 --> 03:27:59.649 March 30 CDC. We held a meeting with NO for applicants to deliver 03:28:01.529 --> 03:28:03.729 a program presentation. So every nonprofit that submitted an application 03:28:05.729 --> 03:28:07.729 was required to verbally present 03:28:08.969 --> 03:28:10.969 the merits of their project to the CDC members. 03:28:12.329 --> 03:28:14.329 March 15th, we held another CDC meeting to determine 03:28:16.569 --> 03:28:18.569 funding allocations that were unanimously approved. 03:28:20.129 --> 03:28:22.129 Our recommended by both CDC and staff 03:28:27.450 --> 03:28:28.930 so here is the CDBG allocation that is being proposed. 03:28:32.250 --> 03:28:34.250 The total anticipated city allocation 03:28:34.770 --> 03:28:36.770 and for the upcoming fiscal year is 6.1. 03:28:37.890 --> 03:28:39.890 4 million with program allocations going to 03:28:43.330 --> 03:28:45.330 excuse me, administration and program delivery, 03:28:47.890 --> 03:28:49.890 housing, rehab programs, homeless support, SUP recipient 03:28:51.810 --> 03:28:53.810 assistance, economic development activities, 03:28:55.290 --> 03:28:57.290 and debt service 03:29:01.410 --> 03:29:03.410 so the economic development programs 03:29:03.450 --> 03:29:05.450 that will this year that ADT is proposing to fund 03:29:07.890 --> 03:29:09.890 is approximately 585,000. 03:29:11.110 --> 03:29:13.110 The programs that will that we're recommending for 03:29:13.451 --> 03:29:15.451 funding our commercial facade improvement program. 03:29:16.531 --> 03:29:18.531 The Micro Micro Storefront Beautification Grant Program, 03:29:20.731 --> 03:29:22.731 Stockton Entrepreneurship Program, 03:29:23.491 --> 03:29:25.491 Fresh Produce Access Grant stocked full of produce 03:29:26.891 --> 03:29:28.891 program food entrepreneurship and Urban Garden Support. 03:29:31.331 --> 03:29:33.331 So those are the five programs that we are recommending 03:29:36.851 --> 03:29:38.851 for economic development activities 03:29:39.451 --> 03:29:41.451 to help new businesses and existing businesses 03:29:45.451 --> 03:29:46.811 so the CDBG and ESG now for these are considered more 03:29:49.510 --> 03:29:51.510 or less our public service and homeless funding sources. 03:29:53.171 --> 03:29:55.171 So there were 29 city and ESG applications 03:29:57.211 --> 03:29:59.211 received for a total request amount of 3.3 million. 03:30:01.612 --> 03:30:03.612 So the local was oversubscribed 03:30:04.732 --> 03:30:06.732 however, the total CTG and ESG funding allocation 03:30:08.172 --> 03:30:10.172 that we're recommending is 1,030,000, which will fund 03:30:12.212 --> 03:30:14.212 14 CDBG activities and five ESG activities. 03:30:16.652 --> 03:30:18.652 So these numbers demonstrate that the need 03:30:20.412 --> 03:30:22.412 for resources still outweighs the available resources 03:30:25.692 --> 03:30:27.692 so recipients of these are the agencies 03:30:28.132 --> 03:30:30.132 that we are recommending for funding with CDBG 03:30:33.692 --> 03:30:35.692 and we call these our public service agencies. 03:30:36.732 --> 03:30:38.732 HUD restricts the amount of CDBG that you can 03:30:40.852 --> 03:30:42.852 allocate to public service activities. 03:30:44.292 --> 03:30:46.292 And so we are recommending Gospel Center. 03:30:47.892 --> 03:30:50.212 They're going to be doing some shelter repairs on one of their homeless shelters. 03:30:52.130 --> 03:30:54.653 Solberg Perez, which is going to be doing arts and literacy program for Youth 03:30:58.373 --> 03:31:00.373 Second Harvest Food Bank Kelly's Angels. 03:31:02.453 --> 03:31:04.453 They serve at Risk Youth, San Joaquin for housing, 03:31:05.813 --> 03:31:07.813 landlord, tenant disputes and fair housing, child abuse 03:31:10.413 --> 03:31:12.413 prevention to do case management for us at risk youth. 03:31:14.373 --> 03:31:16.373 The Boys and Girls Club of Sierra Vista. 03:31:17.733 --> 03:31:19.733 They do snacks and stems, 03:31:22.130 --> 03:31:24.130 stem research activities for kids, 03:31:25.293 --> 03:31:27.293 children's home of Stockton, which is transitional housing 03:31:28.893 --> 03:31:30.893 for homeless youth. 03:31:30.933 --> 03:31:32.933 Downtown Stockton Alliance Alliance they provide 03:31:35.493 --> 03:31:37.493 the service of portable bathrooms, portable showers 03:31:39.173 --> 03:31:41.173 and the San Joaquin for San Joaquin Aging 03:31:42.214 --> 03:31:44.894 and Community Services that's the Meals on Wheels program for elderly 03:31:46.494 --> 03:31:48.494 and frail inbound seniors to get meals 03:31:50.134 --> 03:31:52.134 and parents by choice is a foster care 03:31:53.134 --> 03:31:55.134 for youth program, and they also provide case 03:31:56.534 --> 03:31:58.534 management services uplift all foundation. 03:32:00.574 --> 03:32:02.574 This organization provides mobile laundry services to our 03:32:03.654 --> 03:32:05.654 homeless population. 03:32:07.614 --> 03:32:09.614 So all of these activities are consistent 03:32:09.894 --> 03:32:11.894 with the five year consolidated plan, 03:32:12.694 --> 03:32:15.614 which is also a requirement of HUD. So each year, every five years, we have to 03:32:19.534 --> 03:32:21.534 create a five year plan which documents the needs 03:32:24.940 --> 03:32:26.940 of Stockton residents and every year 03:32:27.294 --> 03:32:29.294 we have to do the annual action plan 03:32:29.854 --> 03:32:31.854 of how we're going to implement that five year goal. 03:32:32.735 --> 03:32:34.735 And so this is the plan that we're implement, 03:32:35.335 --> 03:32:37.335 that we're proposing to implement coming up. 03:32:38.575 --> 03:32:40.575 So the next one is the emergency solution grant. 03:32:40.975 --> 03:32:42.975 And so the Emergency Solutions Grant, 03:32:43.950 --> 03:32:45.950 these funds are specifically for homeless 03:32:46.895 --> 03:32:48.895 homeless service providers. 03:32:49.655 --> 03:32:51.655 So we are proposing to find St Mary's Dining Room, 03:32:54.775 --> 03:32:56.775 which provides meals a little bit of everything, right? 03:32:57.935 --> 03:32:59.935 So their name is pretty deceiving by saying dining hall, 03:33:01.455 --> 03:33:03.455 they provide meals, they provide health care, 03:33:04.615 --> 03:33:06.615 child care services, dental services. 03:33:07.415 --> 03:33:09.415 So they do a lot in addition to just providing meals. 03:33:11.815 --> 03:33:13.815 Then we have Stockton Shelter for the homeless 03:33:15.935 --> 03:33:18.375 proposing to fund them Ready to Work, which is a jobs program, 03:33:20.456 --> 03:33:22.456 Central Valley Low Income Housing, which provides 03:33:22.776 --> 03:33:24.776 rapid rehousing and eviction prevention services. 03:33:26.736 --> 03:33:28.736 They give individuals 03:33:29.736 --> 03:33:31.736 rental assistance, utility assistance and 03:33:34.496 --> 03:33:36.496 like I said, security deposits 03:33:37.560 --> 03:33:39.560 and then HMAS Administration, 03:33:40.536 --> 03:33:42.536 all of our emergency solutions 03:33:43.816 --> 03:33:45.816 agencies have to input their data 03:33:47.616 --> 03:33:49.616 into the HMAS System, 03:33:49.656 --> 03:33:51.656 which is monitored by the continuum of care 03:33:52.560 --> 03:33:54.560 so that we can kind of track the progress 03:33:54.256 --> 03:33:56.256 and what type of activities are being implemented 03:33:58.656 --> 03:34:00.656 you can see 03:34:01.136 --> 03:34:03.136 so and then our other federal grant that we receive 03:34:04.696 --> 03:34:06.696 is the Home Investment Partnership Money Funds. 03:34:07.776 --> 03:34:09.776 We typically receive about 1.7 million 03:34:10.937 --> 03:34:12.937 but then adds to that program income in prior years, 03:34:15.337 --> 03:34:18.137 programing income that we haven't used. And the upcoming year we'll have about 2.7 million 03:34:20.977 --> 03:34:22.977 the funds are going to are 03:34:23.257 --> 03:34:25.257 that we're proposing that the funds will all go 03:34:26.537 --> 03:34:28.537 towards affordable housing development, homeless housing. 03:34:29.817 --> 03:34:31.817 So these are the funds that our developers apply for 03:34:34.577 --> 03:34:36.577 to increase the number of affordable 03:34:38.457 --> 03:34:40.457 housing units in Stockton 03:34:41.137 --> 03:34:43.817 and these funds are always issued through a competitive process 03:34:45.337 --> 03:34:47.337 of competitive enough around. 03:34:48.257 --> 03:34:50.257 And so that brings me to our recommendation since we are 03:34:51.457 --> 03:34:53.457 recommending that the Council adopt a resolution approving 03:34:55.657 --> 03:34:57.657 fiscal year 20, 2223 annual action 03:34:58.457 --> 03:35:01.298 plan for the Community Development Block Grant, Home Investment 03:35:01.498 --> 03:35:03.498 Partnership and Emergency Solution Grants Program 03:35:04.898 --> 03:35:06.898 authorized the city manager or his designee to appoint staff 03:35:08.658 --> 03:35:11.538 as a certifying officer responsible for a completed 03:35:12.580 --> 03:35:14.580 environmental review process to ensure compliance 03:35:14.538 --> 03:35:16.538 with the National Environmental Policy Act. 03:35:16.618 --> 03:35:18.618 NEPA authorized the city manager designee to execute as submit 03:35:21.378 --> 03:35:23.858 all documents to the US Department of Housing and Urban Development 03:35:24.778 --> 03:35:26.778 and to take actions necessary and appropriate to carry out the 03:35:27.538 --> 03:35:29.538 purpose and of the resolution 03:35:30.658 --> 03:35:32.658 and that concludes my presentation. 03:35:33.980 --> 03:35:35.178 Are there any questions? Thank you. Click. 03:35:35.498 --> 03:35:38.218 Do you have any public comments? We do, Mayor 03:35:40.138 --> 03:35:42.138 Tommy Guerrero. 03:35:44.938 --> 03:35:46.938 Jay Tamia Guerrero. 03:35:49.978 --> 03:35:51.978 Oh. Jamie 03:36:02.419 --> 03:36:04.419 good evening. 03:36:05.339 --> 03:36:07.339 I'm just going to trees. 03:36:07.859 --> 03:36:10.419 Sidewalks, all that stuff. Sounds really good. 03:36:10.579 --> 03:36:12.579 We really need it. 03:36:13.259 --> 03:36:15.619 But I'm just going to stick to my little script that I wrote so we can get going here. 03:36:17.699 --> 03:36:19.699 I just wanted to thank the CDBG. 03:36:20.259 --> 03:36:22.259 Board members and staff for accepting and awarding. 03:36:23.579 --> 03:36:25.579 Kelly's Angels 03:36:26.139 --> 03:36:28.139 CDBG grant 03:36:30.139 --> 03:36:32.659 this year. I think the. City council, of course, 03:36:34.190 --> 03:36:35.579 and everyone. That's here. Nevertheless, 03:36:37.499 --> 03:36:39.499 the city CDBG grant went significantly 03:36:42.220 --> 03:36:44.220 a little bit higher and they kind of like lowered it 03:36:48.200 --> 03:36:50.620 and we wasn't awarded. The county CDBG. 03:36:51.220 --> 03:36:53.220 Also this year, 03:36:53.500 --> 03:36:55.500 I understand a CDBG grant is not a permanent. 03:36:56.980 --> 03:36:58.980 Solution, and we're supposed to find alternative ways to. 03:37:00.180 --> 03:37:02.180 Sustain and sustain our. 03:37:02.260 --> 03:37:04.820 Well, we do. One of our biggest barriers is the that most grants 03:37:07.140 --> 03:37:09.140 work in reimbursements like the CDBG grant. 03:37:10.940 --> 03:37:12.940 We did have to turn down 03:37:12.980 --> 03:37:14.980 a couple of grants because we did not have the capital to. 03:37:16.820 --> 03:37:18.820 Make purchases and pay employees. 03:37:20.820 --> 03:37:23.820 However, I feel there is a way that the city can help surviving that organization. 03:37:25.740 --> 03:37:28.700 Like ours. We are dedicated to cultural sensitive prevention 03:37:30.661 --> 03:37:32.661 and intervention strategies as we know 03:37:34.341 --> 03:37:36.341 we cannot for everyone under one umbrella 03:37:38.301 --> 03:37:40.301 I don't believe there are any other organizations 03:37:40.461 --> 03:37:42.461 like Kelli's Angels that receive the CDBG grant, 03:37:44.221 --> 03:37:46.221 which fit under the scope of work we do. 03:37:47.221 --> 03:37:49.221 Our organization and others like ours are doing 03:37:50.501 --> 03:37:52.501 impactful work and helping other funded agencies 03:37:54.141 --> 03:37:56.141 because of our experience with trauma and survivors 03:37:57.610 --> 03:37:59.741 like ourselves. Usually free of charge and maybe for some food 03:38:02.261 --> 03:38:04.261 and I don't believe that 03:38:05.781 --> 03:38:07.701 there are any. OK, I really care about starting the people that are here. 03:38:12.101 --> 03:38:13.421 I don't want them to go through what I have gone through. 03:38:16.221 --> 03:38:18.221 Every violent crime that happens 03:38:18.301 --> 03:38:20.301 here, I feel it. 03:38:21.382 --> 03:38:23.462 And you know. There's rosaries and funerals going on right now. 03:38:26.620 --> 03:38:28.620 Because we've had a bad 03:38:29.220 --> 03:38:31.220 weekend couple of weeks ago and 03:38:33.422 --> 03:38:35.422 there's just a difference between empathy and sympathy. 03:38:37.542 --> 03:38:40.462 And I'm here to help. So that was. 03:38:40.462 --> 03:38:42.462 Thank you. 03:38:43.742 --> 03:38:45.142 Jose. Nuno. 03:38:49.302 --> 03:38:51.302 Makes 03:38:52.302 --> 03:38:54.302 it even very intimate here. 03:38:55.220 --> 03:38:57.702 Thank you. Getting there. Lincoln, vice mayor for the city council members 03:38:59.822 --> 03:39:01.822 members hoods and union work for and homebuilders. 03:39:02.582 --> 03:39:04.582 315 North and one K Street here in Stockton. 03:39:06.822 --> 03:39:09.262 We're one of the applicants. For their CDBG. Funding. 03:39:09.782 --> 03:39:11.943 We're happy that we're on the list. We will help continue providing services 03:39:12.583 --> 03:39:15.543 for our families here in Stockton. As many of you attended our. 03:39:16.463 --> 03:39:18.463 Grand opening recently re square, we're continuing 03:39:19.503 --> 03:39:21.503 to help our families, our community from veterans. 03:39:21.663 --> 03:39:23.663 To other populations here in Stockton. 03:39:24.183 --> 03:39:26.183 So just wanted to be here present 03:39:26.543 --> 03:39:29.343 to give you thanks for your support and look forward to continuing 03:39:29.383 --> 03:39:31.383 helping families here in Stockton. Thank you. 03:39:34.230 --> 03:39:36.230 That concludes our public comments. 03:39:36.183 --> 03:39:38.183 Thank you. Councilmember Lynch. 03:39:38.423 --> 03:39:40.423 I just had a question on the 20 to 23 allocation for the Home 03:39:43.143 --> 03:39:45.143 Investment Partnerships prior years program income. 03:39:48.183 --> 03:39:50.183 Where does the program income come from? 03:39:50.983 --> 03:39:52.983 Does that mean all the expenses weren't spent? 03:39:54.183 --> 03:39:56.183 Is that what it is leftover from last year. 03:39:57.223 --> 03:40:00.183 So the housing program. Yeah well the and allocation $777,738 03:40:05.464 --> 03:40:07.464 typically those. 03:40:08.824 --> 03:40:11.424 Monthly payments attorney Mike time thank you. 03:40:13.984 --> 03:40:15.984 OK and if we have our finance person here to respond. 03:40:18.304 --> 03:40:20.304 OK good evening I'm Raquel Turia with. 03:40:21.424 --> 03:40:23.424 APM three with Economic. Development. 03:40:24.240 --> 03:40:26.240 So the 700 that you see on there is. 03:40:27.264 --> 03:40:29.504 Really a. True up. Between what's estimated at time though with the annual action 03:40:32.104 --> 03:40:34.104 plan it's presented and. What actually comes in. 03:40:34.904 --> 03:40:36.904 So that's two years worth of actuals 03:40:39.240 --> 03:40:41.344 the difference between the actuals and the what was estimated in the annual action plan. 03:40:43.584 --> 03:40:45.584 So prior year program income. 03:40:45.904 --> 03:40:47.904 There's two years worth of prior prior year. 03:40:49.640 --> 03:40:51.640 That 776,000. 03:40:51.305 --> 03:40:53.105 Correct. And that's from loan payments. 03:40:54.465 --> 03:40:56.465 And so 03:40:56.785 --> 03:40:58.785 it could be. 03:40:59.865 --> 03:41:01.865 You know, where they're paying. October. 03:41:02.105 --> 03:41:04.305 Those are most of the larger payments we receive or partial payments. 03:41:06.265 --> 03:41:08.785 Towards. These like 30. Or 50 year loans. 03:41:09.145 --> 03:41:11.145 OK. OK, thank you. 03:41:14.305 --> 03:41:16.305 Councilmember Walmsley. 03:41:17.345 --> 03:41:19.345 Thank you so much Mayor. 03:41:19.505 --> 03:41:21.505 You know, it's always difficult 03:41:22.250 --> 03:41:24.250 when it comes down to money and funding and many times 03:41:25.650 --> 03:41:27.650 that the need outweighs what we have. 03:41:29.425 --> 03:41:31.425 But I'm going to make a generalized statement about 03:41:33.945 --> 03:41:35.945 the way things are funded in and specifically 03:41:36.865 --> 03:41:38.865 going in and touching on what Mr. 03:41:40.386 --> 03:41:42.386 Guerrero pointed out, which 03:41:44.106 --> 03:41:46.106 a lot of times the nonprofit and organizations who are more 03:41:49.260 --> 03:41:51.260 and most deeply seated and relatable to community, 03:41:56.386 --> 03:41:58.386 often has the most difficult times 03:41:58.506 --> 03:42:00.506 in getting granted these dollars. 03:42:02.506 --> 03:42:04.506 And so while I'm looking at the list 03:42:05.586 --> 03:42:07.586 of our subversive events 03:42:08.466 --> 03:42:10.466 and being someone who was in the streets 03:42:11.546 --> 03:42:13.546 and in the trenches, I know who's available 03:42:15.706 --> 03:42:17.706 to community members, in particular, 03:42:18.426 --> 03:42:20.106 those who have who have been impacted by violence and trauma, 03:42:22.266 --> 03:42:24.266 the males versus agencies that remain silent. 03:42:28.386 --> 03:42:30.386 And so I think that it's really time. 03:42:31.987 --> 03:42:33.987 And I know that an announcement did go out. 03:42:34.507 --> 03:42:36.507 And in regards to capacity building, 03:42:38.227 --> 03:42:39.787 but I think that we need to take a greater look at some of these CBOs 03:42:43.627 --> 03:42:45.627 and nonprofits who have been on the forefront of COVID, 03:42:47.747 --> 03:42:49.747 who have been on the forefront of trauma and the way that we respond. 03:42:52.987 --> 03:42:54.987 So I just want to kind of elevate 03:42:55.307 --> 03:42:57.307 those sentiments and and to let you know, Mr. 03:42:58.187 --> 03:43:00.187 Guerrero, that I hear you 100%, 03:43:01.187 --> 03:43:03.187 and I know that your agency is out there on the forefront 03:43:05.867 --> 03:43:08.467 as it relates to quality of services and how 03:43:12.187 --> 03:43:14.187 these fundings are allocated to some of these nonprofits. 03:43:15.427 --> 03:43:17.427 How are we monitoring like quality of assurance 03:43:20.908 --> 03:43:22.908 and ensuring that these organizations 03:43:23.548 --> 03:43:25.548 are actually impacting some of our key goals? 03:43:26.680 --> 03:43:29.680 And outcomes? So with COVID, of course, we have not 03:43:30.948 --> 03:43:33.868 gone out to agencies, but in the last year and a half to do actual monitoring 03:43:36.468 --> 03:43:38.468 however, we will resume the monitoring is in the fall. 03:43:39.908 --> 03:43:41.908 And so but we do x four quarterly reports, 03:43:43.828 --> 03:43:45.828 we get quarterly reports, we have biweekly meetings, 03:43:47.680 --> 03:43:49.680 and we ask the agencies to 03:43:50.428 --> 03:43:52.428 before they close out a case that they have 03:43:52.548 --> 03:43:54.548 the applicant or the the client provide a survey 03:43:56.468 --> 03:43:58.508 who kind of ranks what their services that they receive 03:43:59.388 --> 03:44:01.388 and how they feel about those services. 03:44:02.148 --> 03:44:04.868 OK, and then also can you tell me a little more about the kickoff 03:44:07.908 --> 03:44:10.148 and what exactly that meant and how were people within the community notified 03:44:12.309 --> 03:44:15.690 that this was happening? So we place a notification in the record 03:44:17.709 --> 03:44:19.709 and we sent out an email distribution list. 03:44:20.149 --> 03:44:22.149 So our email list is and the CDC members and and 03:44:26.509 --> 03:44:28.509 so those are the mechanisms that we use to get the word out. 03:44:29.629 --> 03:44:31.629 OK, and then my last question specifically 03:44:33.189 --> 03:44:35.189 as it relates to dollars that are allocated for 03:44:37.269 --> 03:44:39.269 through housing 03:44:40.229 --> 03:44:42.229 and development, I know that I've asked this question 03:44:42.909 --> 03:44:44.909 several times about how we monitor 03:44:46.989 --> 03:44:48.989 housing complaints, discrimination complaints, 03:44:51.869 --> 03:44:54.789 because I know that federal guidelines are different than local. 03:44:54.909 --> 03:44:56.909 So how do we kind of marry them all so that we are 03:44:59.290 --> 03:45:01.290 following up in a timely manner and overseeing 03:45:02.300 --> 03:45:04.300 any type of complaints related to housing, 03:45:05.190 --> 03:45:07.190 specifically discrimination. 03:45:07.550 --> 03:45:09.550 So we do have loan agreements that we enforce. 03:45:11.870 --> 03:45:14.350 And so like I said, with the agencies, we go out and monitor 03:45:16.350 --> 03:45:19.190 those agencies, which we haven't to cover it. But this the same thing for our housing developments. 03:45:20.990 --> 03:45:22.990 We go out and monitor them on an annual basis 03:45:24.310 --> 03:45:26.310 and we look at their project files. 03:45:27.550 --> 03:45:29.550 We do an inspection of the building to make sure 03:45:30.750 --> 03:45:32.750 that there is no deferred maintenance and that, you know, 03:45:33.550 --> 03:45:35.550 we just want to make sure that these developers are 03:45:37.590 --> 03:45:39.590 being good neighbors to the city. 03:45:39.910 --> 03:45:41.910 And so and then also we have San Joaquin Fair Housing, 03:45:43.550 --> 03:45:45.550 who also does investigations of housing complaints. 03:45:47.910 --> 03:45:49.910 They're one of the agencies that we fund. 03:45:50.671 --> 03:45:52.671 And then as counsel how are we communicated 03:45:53.671 --> 03:45:55.671 with when there is a complaint of such magnitude? 03:45:58.231 --> 03:46:00.231 How are we communicated the council, 03:46:00.671 --> 03:46:02.671 how is the council kept separate? Yes, 03:46:05.310 --> 03:46:07.310 well, we give updates to the city manager. 03:46:07.871 --> 03:46:09.871 And so if there are any updates that would fall 03:46:10.471 --> 03:46:12.471 into that category, those I assume would be passed on. 03:46:13.631 --> 03:46:15.631 But we haven't had any that have been have made it 03:46:18.111 --> 03:46:20.111 at least to my division, that for them to be forwarded on 03:46:22.911 --> 03:46:24.911 and I'm just kind of bringing that up 03:46:25.151 --> 03:46:27.151 as we're kind of coming out of this pandemic 03:46:28.991 --> 03:46:30.991 foreseeable actions that may or may not take place. 03:46:32.791 --> 03:46:34.791 post-COVID-19 moratoriums, expiring 03:46:37.511 --> 03:46:39.511 housing, fair housing being over capacity. 03:46:40.952 --> 03:46:42.792 I mean, I'm hoping that some of these dollars that are allocated to 03:46:44.912 --> 03:46:46.912 fair housing will how kind of mitigate, 03:46:48.512 --> 03:46:50.512 you know, not having enough staffing. 03:46:51.592 --> 03:46:52.872 Right. And we and I agree and think so we of course, 03:46:55.832 --> 03:46:58.752 San Joaquin for housing can't do it all. So we also have agreements with our L.A, 03:47:02.192 --> 03:47:04.192 which is a big central valley. 03:47:04.592 --> 03:47:06.432 Yeah. So we have 03:47:06.712 --> 03:47:08.712 a contract with them to provide legal services as well. 03:47:09.952 --> 03:47:11.952 Fair housing complaints, investigations, 03:47:13.312 --> 03:47:15.312 representation of low income renters 03:47:16.512 --> 03:47:18.512 on unlawful detainers and things that might put their 03:47:19.912 --> 03:47:22.272 housing in jeopardy. Do you have a baseline of how many complaints 03:47:24.392 --> 03:47:26.392 have been had by chance? 03:47:27.272 --> 03:47:29.272 If not, you can get back to me on that. 03:47:29.592 --> 03:47:31.592 Let me get back to you. OK, thank you. 03:47:36.153 --> 03:47:38.153 Councilmember Champa. 03:47:38.273 --> 03:47:40.513 Thank you, Mayor. So I just have a question. 03:47:40.513 --> 03:47:42.513 So the total was 29 for the CDBG portion of it. 03:47:45.330 --> 03:47:47.330 So how do you go like the one parents by choice. 03:47:49.553 --> 03:47:51.553 So how do we decide what actually allocation 03:47:52.433 --> 03:47:54.433 they get there ask us. 426,000. 03:47:55.313 --> 03:47:58.273 I couldn't get it to load on my computer and we gave them 115,000. 03:47:59.353 --> 03:48:02.233 Can you kind of explain what that is. I mean it's one seventh of the allocation 03:48:03.393 --> 03:48:05.393 so does the committee say, hey, you know what I mean? 03:48:05.993 --> 03:48:07.993 I mean so if everyone asks for more money, 03:48:08.953 --> 03:48:11.673 but what percentage do they get? So have you asked for that? So how does. 03:48:12.993 --> 03:48:15.913 So we go in knowing that everyone is not going to get what they asked for? Right. 03:48:17.513 --> 03:48:19.513 And so and that's been a dilemma that the CDC and staff 03:48:21.594 --> 03:48:23.594 has combated for four years now is do you give a lot 03:48:26.674 --> 03:48:28.674 to a few or do you give a little to everyone? 03:48:32.740 --> 03:48:34.794 And it just seems like, you know, I don't know the right answer for that. 03:48:35.514 --> 03:48:37.514 And so this is kind of like, you know, what folks have felt 03:48:38.914 --> 03:48:40.914 was really fair and equitable, given the fact that 03:48:42.394 --> 03:48:44.394 all of these agencies provide a really valuable service 03:48:45.954 --> 03:48:47.954 and they're you know, they're providing a safety net 03:48:48.514 --> 03:48:50.634 for low income residents. And so it is hard to say, well, not you but you when they 03:48:53.554 --> 03:48:56.274 when they're all needed. So parents by choice, does what. 03:48:58.340 --> 03:49:00.340 Foster do a case manager or foster services. 03:49:01.274 --> 03:49:03.274 So then they didn't get allocation last year. 03:49:04.154 --> 03:49:06.714 They applied and they. They didn't get anything last year. 03:49:07.340 --> 03:49:09.274 This is their first year apply. So then that's the other question. 03:49:09.434 --> 03:49:11.434 So then how do we decide I mean, kind of who gets it? 03:49:12.995 --> 03:49:15.995 I mean, because some of the people are on the list. I mean they've been community stalwarts forever. 03:49:17.355 --> 03:49:19.555 So I mean, and I get that. So what we do too is that we do take a like a three year 03:49:24.395 --> 03:49:26.395 chart and we look at what their spending patterns 03:49:27.435 --> 03:49:29.435 have been over the last three years, who's 03:49:29.875 --> 03:49:31.875 spending all of their funding, who has funding left over, 03:49:33.235 --> 03:49:35.235 who is constantly asking for funds to be rolled over 03:49:36.350 --> 03:49:38.435 into the next year? And that's what we kind of base it on. 03:49:40.750 --> 03:49:42.750 So if you for the last two years 03:49:42.515 --> 03:49:44.515 have had to have your funding rolled over, 03:49:45.915 --> 03:49:47.835 then most likely you will not get what you asked for 03:49:48.835 --> 03:49:51.515 because you have not demonstrated that you're able to expand what you've been provided. 03:49:53.915 --> 03:49:55.915 And in the world of federal 03:49:56.955 --> 03:49:59.435 funding, it's not good to have a positive cash flow. 03:50:02.396 --> 03:50:04.156 If I may also. Add, to provide some additional context, it's important 03:50:06.796 --> 03:50:08.796 to understand and know that the federal government 03:50:10.556 --> 03:50:12.556 has been reducing the overall CDBG 03:50:13.116 --> 03:50:15.116 funding nationwide for the past seven to eight years 03:50:16.996 --> 03:50:18.996 with the intent of it going away at some point. 03:50:19.596 --> 03:50:21.596 So if you look at the charts here, you see where 03:50:22.676 --> 03:50:25.516 the previous year's allocation is greater than the current year's allocation, 03:50:26.760 --> 03:50:28.760 because that's a factor of the federal government. 03:50:28.876 --> 03:50:30.876 Basically reducing its investment in this area. 03:50:32.316 --> 03:50:34.316 I suspect that at some point in the future 03:50:34.356 --> 03:50:36.356 we'll come up with an alternative program for this. 03:50:36.796 --> 03:50:38.796 But but so that's a factor that's at play here, too. 03:50:40.236 --> 03:50:42.236 So each year there's less money available 03:50:42.276 --> 03:50:44.276 to even allocate and to distribute 03:50:44.596 --> 03:50:47.316 and will continue to be that way until there's no money left in this program. 03:50:49.276 --> 03:50:51.797 Again, I suspect that the federal government will come up with a 03:50:52.357 --> 03:50:55.370 new program of some sort. But until they do that, 03:50:55.717 --> 03:50:57.717 these funds are going to incrementally decrease 03:50:58.237 --> 03:51:00.797 every single year. All right. That's what that's what was hard for me 03:51:01.397 --> 03:51:03.397 is because, you know, you have the same dilemma. 03:51:03.717 --> 03:51:05.717 We had curbs and gutters and trees and sidewalks 03:51:06.957 --> 03:51:08.957 and all these people have great programs 03:51:10.370 --> 03:51:12.397 and they rely on this money. And then when you snatch it away from them, 03:51:13.917 --> 03:51:16.477 I mean, that's what's the hardest part. Yeah. 29 people, you know, what percentage do you find 03:51:18.477 --> 03:51:20.397 who did not find? It's not any fun, obviously, to be on that committee. 03:51:23.117 --> 03:51:25.317 And so it's hard. 03:51:25.317 --> 03:51:27.317 And these people all do good work in the community. 03:51:28.117 --> 03:51:30.397 They do. Very similar. Fugazi. 03:51:31.770 --> 03:51:33.477 Yes, a tie. I appreciate the fact 03:51:33.477 --> 03:51:35.477 that you held up that three year spending chart. 03:51:35.717 --> 03:51:38.237 I think that that would be something that we really could use additionally 03:51:41.438 --> 03:51:43.438 in future reports, just to be able to see 03:51:44.838 --> 03:51:46.838 how that money is is flowing 03:51:47.478 --> 03:51:49.478 through the organizations as we award it to them. 03:51:50.838 --> 03:51:52.838 I know that due to COVID, there were some issues with them 03:51:54.838 --> 03:51:56.838 being able to actually provide the services that they had 03:51:58.918 --> 03:52:00.918 outlined that they were going to be doing with those funds. 03:52:04.380 --> 03:52:06.158 I also would say that, you know, 03:52:06.158 --> 03:52:07.638 going through I thank you so much for putting the applications in here. 03:52:10.318 --> 03:52:12.318 I've enjoyed going through them 03:52:13.478 --> 03:52:15.518 and reading them. And I, I concur 03:52:17.158 --> 03:52:19.158 with my fellow council member talking about, 03:52:20.278 --> 03:52:22.278 you know, you look at like parents by choice. 03:52:22.478 --> 03:52:24.638 They have a proposal. Let's say they want to help 20 kids, 18 to 24. 03:52:26.998 --> 03:52:28.998 Those, those 20 kids secure housing 03:52:29.518 --> 03:52:32.199 because once you age out of the system which Councilwoman Lenz can talk about 03:52:33.359 --> 03:52:35.919 because she works with Mayor Graham you know on your 18th birthday it's like you know 03:52:38.390 --> 03:52:40.390 all the best good luck to you and you know fly fly 03:52:43.319 --> 03:52:45.639 and unfortunately there's not a lot of options for them out there 03:52:46.959 --> 03:52:48.959 but when we look at this yeah coming down to that number 03:52:49.359 --> 03:52:51.359 and then hearing from Kelli's angels as well 03:52:51.679 --> 03:52:53.679 you know we see some groups have received 03:52:53.719 --> 03:52:55.719 their entire request for allocation of funds 03:52:56.799 --> 03:52:58.799 and some of them we see on here year after year after year. 03:53:01.519 --> 03:53:03.439 And it's not that they're not doing important work, 03:53:03.959 --> 03:53:06.879 but when I was reading the applications, some of them said, hey, you know, we've secured this one 03:53:08.999 --> 03:53:10.999 and this one and we'll be OK if we don't get CDBG. 03:53:12.359 --> 03:53:14.799 And I'm like, OK, great, let's pass that money on to somebody else. 03:53:16.919 --> 03:53:19.359 Because they're putting that in there. So I'm like, I'm taking that as a as a, you know, white flag. 03:53:23.000 --> 03:53:25.000 Like, Yeah, we would really like it, but it's OK. 03:53:25.800 --> 03:53:28.480 We would surrender it to somebody else. And so I want to be able to take those funds 03:53:29.560 --> 03:53:31.560 and give them to another organization, 03:53:31.680 --> 03:53:34.680 especially some of these new groups who who really this is their first bite of the apple. 03:53:36.880 --> 03:53:38.880 But I know it is not easy. 03:53:39.000 --> 03:53:41.800 I've listened to them. I've gone to the presentations at CDBG meetings 03:53:45.400 --> 03:53:47.400 and it is you want to fund everybody. 03:53:47.760 --> 03:53:49.760 You really obviously do. 03:53:50.920 --> 03:53:52.920 And so I know it's not easy work at all. 03:53:55.400 --> 03:53:57.400 And I appreciate people's honesty in there. 03:53:57.840 --> 03:53:59.840 But when you tell me you'll be OK without the funds, 03:54:00.880 --> 03:54:02.880 I want to reallocate them somewhere else. 03:54:03.600 --> 03:54:05.600 I'm just saying so if anybody else read that, it's in there. 03:54:08.360 --> 03:54:10.360 The Councilmember Lynch. 03:54:12.410 --> 03:54:14.410 You know, and I think another thing is during COVID, 03:54:15.121 --> 03:54:17.121 they couldn't have events that they 03:54:17.401 --> 03:54:19.401 normally had like fundraising events. 03:54:19.721 --> 03:54:21.721 I know I would go to the Parents by Choice event every year 03:54:24.641 --> 03:54:26.641 and you know, if they made money, I think 03:54:28.321 --> 03:54:30.321 they would not come for as much money for these funds. 03:54:32.521 --> 03:54:34.521 So I think that impacted maybe the ask for some of the people. 03:54:36.321 --> 03:54:38.321 They asked for more. They asked for less getting. 03:54:38.641 --> 03:54:40.641 So I think that also impacted the ask. 03:54:41.441 --> 03:54:43.441 So thank you for the work you do. 03:54:43.761 --> 03:54:45.761 I know it's not easy, but I think the list is great. 03:54:47.601 --> 03:54:49.241 Thank you. Thank you. 03:54:51.921 --> 03:54:54.401 OK, and I just echo those sentiments. Thank you, Ty and Director 03:54:57.481 --> 03:54:59.481 Carey, I mean, you tell your economic 03:54:59.801 --> 03:55:01.801 development team for the work that you do. 03:55:02.322 --> 03:55:04.322 Again, I know it's challenging, but 03:55:04.962 --> 03:55:06.962 we're meeting some needs right here, several needs 03:55:09.242 --> 03:55:11.242 that that make a visible difference in our community. 03:55:12.482 --> 03:55:14.482 So without further ado, I will if there's no further questions 03:55:16.642 --> 03:55:18.642 or comments of the council, I will close the public hearing 03:55:20.482 --> 03:55:23.362 now, declare the publication closed. Do we have a motion so moved? 03:55:24.122 --> 03:55:26.122 Second question of those, please. 03:55:28.842 --> 03:55:30.722 Thank you. Motion passes 70. 03:55:31.722 --> 03:55:33.642 OK, thank you. Item 11 City Manager Update. 03:55:35.962 --> 03:55:37.522 Nothing to say. Anything. There thank you. 03:55:38.402 --> 03:55:40.962 Counsel. Comments, colleagues see everything. The City Council member, right? 03:55:43.322 --> 03:55:45.322 Yes. Tomorrow morning will be the fallen officer memorial 03:55:47.442 --> 03:55:49.442 in front of the Stockton Police Department at 11 a.m.. 03:55:52.643 --> 03:55:54.643 So I'm encouraging people to show up if they're available. 03:55:56.883 --> 03:55:58.883 It's a really bittersweet memorial this year 03:56:00.283 --> 03:56:02.283 because we lost officer in earlier in the year 03:56:04.243 --> 03:56:06.243 and so I just wanted to note 03:56:08.323 --> 03:56:10.323 that this is going to be a very somber event tomorrow. 03:56:11.883 --> 03:56:13.883 Thank you. 03:56:14.643 --> 03:56:16.643 Councilmember Ramsey. 03:56:17.430 --> 03:56:19.430 Thank you so much, Mayor. So 03:56:21.203 --> 03:56:23.203 first I want to start with the good stuff. 03:56:24.123 --> 03:56:26.123 So I really enjoyed 03:56:27.483 --> 03:56:29.483 last Friday night hanging out at the factory. 03:56:30.843 --> 03:56:32.843 I like Councilmember Cannibal 03:56:33.723 --> 03:56:35.723 and Councilmember Joe Black. 03:56:36.483 --> 03:56:38.483 This was hosted by Mary 03:56:39.283 --> 03:56:41.283 Magdalene and MLA Emilia Emilia, 03:56:43.840 --> 03:56:45.840 who lives on center. 03:56:45.964 --> 03:56:48.924 Excellent. Nice. She was in the building. 03:56:49.964 --> 03:56:51.964 I love our Taco Picture posted on Facebook. 03:56:55.400 --> 03:56:57.400 A lot of likes on that one to where we couldn't. 03:56:58.204 --> 03:57:00.204 I said I'd give you $5 to 03:57:01.964 --> 03:57:03.964 see, quote, what this picture looks like. 03:57:04.204 --> 03:57:06.204 And it was a councilmember can approve 03:57:06.724 --> 03:57:08.724 and I was trying to sell my tacos and you know, 03:57:09.204 --> 03:57:11.964 I was not playing that. So very, very good time 03:57:13.884 --> 03:57:15.884 I also enjoyed 03:57:16.924 --> 03:57:18.924 the Cinco de Mayo celebration, diversity of 03:57:22.400 --> 03:57:24.400 parade and fair shout outs. 03:57:25.444 --> 03:57:27.444 You can see Leo and the entire planning committee 03:57:28.764 --> 03:57:30.764 for that heartfelt parade. 03:57:32.205 --> 03:57:34.205 We had Councilmember Cannibal there. 03:57:34.885 --> 03:57:37.245 We had the mayor there. We had Chief Carrasco, the recruiter recruiter division 03:57:41.925 --> 03:57:43.925 from as many in the building as well. 03:57:45.605 --> 03:57:47.605 And just a special acknowledgment 03:57:48.125 --> 03:57:50.125 to the mayor and particularly your mother, 03:57:51.245 --> 03:57:53.245 who my kids just adore and love. 03:57:53.525 --> 03:57:55.525 Like they were like I'm like that is like the mayor 03:57:56.405 --> 03:57:58.405 and his family. They're like, no, no, no, no. 03:57:59.245 --> 03:58:01.245 So did your mother 03:58:01.805 --> 03:58:03.805 try to teach Kingston and Spanish? 03:58:05.850 --> 03:58:06.965 And he has like four of his teeth missing so he can get like the 03:58:10.500 --> 03:58:12.500 the rolling and the tangles quite cute and hilarious. 03:58:14.405 --> 03:58:17.125 Vise me. I missed the action. I did continue to move the torch 03:58:19.805 --> 03:58:21.805 with much March action that and high heels when I finish. 03:58:24.600 --> 03:58:26.600 I was completely exhausted 03:58:27.246 --> 03:58:29.246 and didn't go anywhere else for the remaining of the day. 03:58:30.606 --> 03:58:33.166 But lots to celebrate. The vibrant colors, the food, the music, 03:58:36.166 --> 03:58:38.166 the kids and the marching band got to see 03:58:40.566 --> 03:58:42.726 Mexico woman who was my marching band teacher. 03:58:44.646 --> 03:58:46.646 But he was still out there getting it. 03:58:47.600 --> 03:58:49.600 And I was very, very, very, very, very impressed. 03:58:50.846 --> 03:58:52.846 So great job to all. 03:58:53.766 --> 03:58:55.766 I do want to give our Gold Star this week 03:58:58.246 --> 03:59:00.246 because, you know, sometimes that's rare and in between. 03:59:01.966 --> 03:59:03.966 But great work to the public works team. 03:59:06.600 --> 03:59:08.600 I'm very excited to hear that on May 11 03:59:09.526 --> 03:59:11.526 that they will be doing a up at McKinley Park. 03:59:13.847 --> 03:59:15.847 So there was a lot of conversation today 03:59:16.287 --> 03:59:18.287 about McKinley Park Derby 03:59:19.470 --> 03:59:21.470 at McKinley Park on May 11th 03:59:22.887 --> 03:59:24.887 for that revitalization effort. 03:59:26.727 --> 03:59:28.727 So I will be continuing 03:59:29.607 --> 03:59:31.607 to advocate it to both Senator 03:59:33.527 --> 03:59:35.527 Susan Edmonton Lamont as is and Assembly Member. 03:59:38.727 --> 03:59:40.727 I don't know sometimes a in between I may have 03:59:41.807 --> 03:59:43.847 I may see it right. I may not. 03:59:43.847 --> 03:59:45.847 Assembly member Villa Pas de Waal. 03:59:46.487 --> 03:59:48.487 That's incorrect. Probably not 03:59:49.870 --> 03:59:51.870 something close enough 03:59:51.127 --> 03:59:53.127 so to continue to bring our state dollars 03:59:55.700 --> 03:59:57.700 for our parks because they are important, 03:59:58.807 --> 04:00:00.807 I will also encourage 04:00:01.168 --> 04:00:03.168 those who email us and go on to the Acts 04:00:05.528 --> 04:00:07.528 Stockton app to ask us about parks. 04:00:09.368 --> 04:00:12.800 I want to empower you. I want to encourage you and support you 04:00:14.480 --> 04:00:16.480 to take ownership of your park. 04:00:17.128 --> 04:00:19.128 They are invested in our neighborhoods. 04:00:20.488 --> 04:00:22.728 For a reason. They are historical landmarks and they are an investment 04:00:26.800 --> 04:00:28.800 to each and every one of our community members, period. 04:00:32.168 --> 04:00:34.168 So I want to acknowledge that last weekend 04:00:36.488 --> 04:00:38.488 I didn't attend the Survivor 04:00:39.608 --> 04:00:41.608 speak, say wide conference, 04:00:42.768 --> 04:00:44.768 and that was very empowering and very uplifting 04:00:47.968 --> 04:00:49.968 to listen to the voices of survivors 04:00:51.449 --> 04:00:53.449 and that whole effort 04:00:54.249 --> 04:00:56.249 to lobby at the Capitol for more legislation 04:00:58.529 --> 04:01:00.529 that protects Survivor and with that being said, 04:01:03.289 --> 04:01:05.289 I want to kind of segway into just tough conversations, 04:01:08.409 --> 04:01:09.809 and I want to talk about crime I want to talk about homicide. 04:01:12.649 --> 04:01:14.649 I want to talk about issues in our community. 04:01:16.129 --> 04:01:18.129 And I want to say that it's very triggering 04:01:20.729 --> 04:01:22.729 it's very disturbing to me when I hear about homicides 04:01:26.890 --> 04:01:27.969 that are happening. We I hear about gun violence that happens 04:01:30.889 --> 04:01:32.889 and I want to talk about trauma because it's real. 04:01:33.809 --> 04:01:36.609 In fact, I know that Councilmember Joe Back remembers this, but I was 04:01:40.890 --> 04:01:42.890 at a restaurant last week during his campaign kickoff, 04:01:43.410 --> 04:01:45.410 and there was some balloons that popped. 04:01:47.130 --> 04:01:49.650 And guess what I did? I was ready to hit the ground. 04:01:50.850 --> 04:01:52.850 I was ready to hit the ground. 04:01:54.450 --> 04:01:56.450 And I said, oh, don't mind that. 04:01:56.610 --> 04:01:58.610 That was a trauma response. 04:01:58.770 --> 04:02:00.770 And I wasn't being sarcastic. 04:02:01.530 --> 04:02:04.170 I was being real. Because when I hear about the shootings 04:02:06.570 --> 04:02:08.570 that are happening in restaurants, 04:02:09.650 --> 04:02:11.650 when I'm here, about the drive 04:02:12.250 --> 04:02:14.250 bys that are taking place and in 04:02:15.770 --> 04:02:17.770 I mean, in literally in my backyard in Western Ranch 04:02:19.850 --> 04:02:21.850 in broad daylight in front of a smoke shop, 04:02:23.490 --> 04:02:25.490 in front of a grocery store, when I see the movie, 04:02:28.100 --> 04:02:30.100 the murdering that happens when I'm driving by gas 04:02:32.491 --> 04:02:34.491 stations, when I go to stores 04:02:36.251 --> 04:02:38.251 and I'm smelling marijuana when I'm walking in those stores 04:02:41.371 --> 04:02:43.371 with my kids and other people are walking in with. 04:02:45.971 --> 04:02:47.971 Their. Kids, 04:02:48.211 --> 04:02:50.211 I'm going to say this tonight, and I'm being very, very clear 04:02:54.371 --> 04:02:56.371 yes. Permits begin and they end with us. 04:02:58.171 --> 04:03:00.171 And we are the deciding factor when it comes to that. 04:03:03.331 --> 04:03:05.331 I want those businesses to know that I'm watching you. 04:03:08.491 --> 04:03:10.491 In fact, I should be watching you. 04:03:11.331 --> 04:03:13.331 And if you can't run a business without a permit 04:03:15.910 --> 04:03:17.910 and don't call the police, will you see loitering happen 04:03:19.611 --> 04:03:21.611 when you seen people smoking dope, smoking 04:03:22.252 --> 04:03:24.252 marijuana, whatever in front of your business? 04:03:26.172 --> 04:03:28.520 Well, maybe you don't need to have a business here because I'm tired. 04:03:31.252 --> 04:03:33.252 Trauma impacts us all 04:03:33.892 --> 04:03:35.892 rather is indirectly are directly. 04:03:38.172 --> 04:03:40.172 And I'm tired of hearing about that. 04:03:41.120 --> 04:03:43.120 So to the Wilson Ranch Shopping Center, 04:03:44.972 --> 04:03:46.972 because that is in my district and I have about control. 04:03:49.292 --> 04:03:51.292 And I'm calling from four miles out 04:03:52.972 --> 04:03:54.972 do you like your permit to sell alcohol? 04:03:56.852 --> 04:03:58.852 Do you like your permit to sell Cigarets and whatever 04:04:01.932 --> 04:04:03.932 that you do not like to call the police department. 04:04:05.452 --> 04:04:07.452 You do not like to take. 04:04:07.492 --> 04:04:09.492 Ownership. Of your parking lot. 04:04:10.413 --> 04:04:12.413 Do you want to see a business 04:04:13.493 --> 04:04:15.493 to the smog shop next door 04:04:16.893 --> 04:04:18.893 that have had three homicides 04:04:19.933 --> 04:04:21.933 in the last two years? 04:04:22.493 --> 04:04:24.493 Do you like your business? 04:04:25.530 --> 04:04:27.530 Do you want to continue to stay in business? 04:04:28.213 --> 04:04:30.213 Because we are tired. 04:04:31.333 --> 04:04:33.773 We you're tired. I'm tired of seeing it on Facebook. 04:04:35.213 --> 04:04:37.213 I'm tired of hearing about it on the news. 04:04:38.733 --> 04:04:40.733 We are talking about businesses who do not hold, 04:04:43.133 --> 04:04:45.133 people who patronize, hand out 04:04:46.413 --> 04:04:48.413 and do whatever accountable. 04:04:49.293 --> 04:04:51.613 I'm sorry. I have no patience for that. 04:04:53.973 --> 04:04:55.973 I don't think that people realize 04:04:56.973 --> 04:04:58.973 how it feels when innocent people 04:05:01.374 --> 04:05:03.374 are being hurt, victimized and traumatized by these activities. 04:05:07.254 --> 04:05:09.254 So all of these stores, bars, 04:05:11.540 --> 04:05:13.734 and liquor stores, I have no empathy. My empathy lies 04:05:14.214 --> 04:05:16.214 with the people and the residents of this community. 04:05:18.134 --> 04:05:20.134 And if you're not able to run to run a decent 04:05:24.294 --> 04:05:26.294 business, then I don't know. 04:05:26.934 --> 04:05:29.294 I don't know what to say. But I know that I'm tired. 04:05:29.494 --> 04:05:31.494 So I do want to put that out that I'm watching 04:05:33.454 --> 04:05:35.454 and not only watching in District six, I'm watching throughout the community. 04:05:38.614 --> 04:05:40.614 And when I hear about 04:05:41.454 --> 04:05:43.454 situations that happen because of neglect, 04:05:45.694 --> 04:05:47.694 I will be reporting you to code enforcement 04:05:50.134 --> 04:05:52.134 three point blank 04:05:54.950 --> 04:05:56.775 moving right along. So next week, many of us are going to Washington, D.C. 04:06:00.695 --> 04:06:02.695 for the one voice conference I'm proud to say 04:06:04.175 --> 04:06:06.175 that I will be attending with many of my colleagues here. 04:06:07.495 --> 04:06:09.495 I'm going to be advocating for infrastructure 04:06:11.550 --> 04:06:13.615 within the city of Stockton. And the Greater Smoking County area. 04:06:15.150 --> 04:06:17.150 That's specific to a strategic plan. 04:06:17.735 --> 04:06:19.735 I also have some one on one appointments 04:06:20.615 --> 04:06:22.615 with a few members of the appropriation committee, 04:06:23.255 --> 04:06:25.255 the Department of Transportation, 04:06:26.255 --> 04:06:28.255 the Housing and Urban Development 04:06:29.615 --> 04:06:31.615 Department, and the Department of Human Services, so that I can 04:06:33.550 --> 04:06:35.550 talk about the health disparities and mental health 04:06:37.255 --> 04:06:39.255 disparities with in Stockton, California. 04:06:41.776 --> 04:06:43.776 I also I will be emailing. 04:06:45.176 --> 04:06:47.176 I'm still curious about this data related 04:06:49.560 --> 04:06:51.560 to the quality of chances related to CBD grants. 04:06:54.456 --> 04:06:57.160 And so I didn't want to look at that data. I will be sending you an email. 04:06:58.256 --> 04:07:00.256 Our city manager also looking at the complaints 04:07:02.376 --> 04:07:04.376 in particular the scorecards and any other type of data. 04:07:07.336 --> 04:07:09.336 Our information we have related to 04:07:09.656 --> 04:07:11.656 any form of discrimination just to have. 04:07:13.416 --> 04:07:15.416 And last but not least, 04:07:16.536 --> 04:07:18.536 I do want to welcome the 50th police chief to Stockton. 04:07:23.136 --> 04:07:25.136 Excellent job, city manager on that town hall. 04:07:27.696 --> 04:07:29.696 I think that it was very efficient. 04:07:30.160 --> 04:07:32.417 It was it wasn't as 04:07:33.337 --> 04:07:35.337 I think that more people within the city should have attended 04:07:35.977 --> 04:07:37.977 because there was a lot of conversation 04:07:38.570 --> 04:07:40.497 outside of that town hall. But hey, I know I post today, I know that several members 04:07:43.457 --> 04:07:45.457 of this council has posted it as well, be involved 04:07:47.657 --> 04:07:49.657 and ask the tough questions because that's what we did. 04:07:51.217 --> 04:07:53.217 We are blessed to 04:07:53.977 --> 04:07:55.977 to be receiving a very highly qualified candidate, 04:07:58.697 --> 04:08:00.697 Chief McFadden, his resumé spoke for itself, period. 04:08:03.570 --> 04:08:05.570 I mean, there wasn't an aspect of policing that 04:08:06.177 --> 04:08:08.177 this man has not done. 04:08:09.337 --> 04:08:12.257 And I'm excited. This is our first 04:08:12.937 --> 04:08:14.937 external candidate since the history of Stockton. 04:08:17.817 --> 04:08:19.817 And last but not least, this is the first African 04:08:22.218 --> 04:08:24.218 American police chief in the history of Stockton. 04:08:27.178 --> 04:08:29.178 And for that, I am an attorney. 04:08:30.258 --> 04:08:32.258 I'm just I'm grateful. I really am. 04:08:32.578 --> 04:08:34.578 I'm really, really, really looking forward to change. 04:08:38.218 --> 04:08:40.218 And that is my report. Thank you. 04:08:41.458 --> 04:08:42.978 Thank you both. Matthew Ghazi. 04:08:43.778 --> 04:08:46.980 Yes, thank you, Mayor. I'll try to be quick. 04:08:46.978 --> 04:08:48.978 I'm really concerned about fires as always, downtown today. 04:08:50.498 --> 04:08:52.498 There was a fire before coming to this meeting of a building 04:08:54.778 --> 04:08:56.778 that has already previously been on fire. 04:08:57.658 --> 04:08:59.658 There seems to be 04:09:00.498 --> 04:09:02.498 these repeat 04:09:02.538 --> 04:09:04.898 offenders, I should say. The building is the offender that that it's been on fire. 04:09:08.458 --> 04:09:10.458 I'm not sure if it's not secured or not. 04:09:10.459 --> 04:09:13.459 And then it catches on fire again. So I don't know what we need to do, but it's fire prevention. 04:09:18.990 --> 04:09:20.990 Is extremely important. 04:09:20.619 --> 04:09:22.619 And the health and welfare and safety 04:09:23.339 --> 04:09:25.339 of not only our firefighters, but the surrounding businesses 04:09:27.590 --> 04:09:29.590 and community so just I'm looking forward 04:09:30.859 --> 04:09:32.859 to hearing what the reason was for that fire 04:09:35.219 --> 04:09:37.219 because there just too many of them are unsheltered. 04:09:40.259 --> 04:09:42.259 I saw that the governor has given the green light 04:09:43.819 --> 04:09:45.819 to Caltrans to clean up on and off ramps of our unsheltered. 04:09:49.139 --> 04:09:51.139 So as soon as we can have our partners in District 04:09:53.139 --> 04:09:55.819 Ten jump on that, that is another call that I get repeatedly is regarding 04:09:59.990 --> 04:10:01.990 homeless on, on and off ramps along the freeway. 04:10:02.300 --> 04:10:05.200 That is not our jurisdiction. I tried to explain to people there was a time when 04:10:07.460 --> 04:10:10.420 the sheriff in San Joaquin County was trying to clean up an area and was told, 04:10:12.660 --> 04:10:15.200 you will be arrested for trespassing on our property, moving people. 04:10:16.700 --> 04:10:19.540 And I was just like, what? Anyway, so thank you. 04:10:20.580 --> 04:10:22.580 If that is been done and making sure that District 04:10:24.180 --> 04:10:26.860 Ten knows that we need to start cleaning up our on and off ramps, 04:10:27.780 --> 04:10:30.660 which then where do people end up going? Then we've taken them out of our park. 04:10:32.200 --> 04:10:34.200 We've taken them off of on and off ramps. 04:10:35.600 --> 04:10:38.200 And I will tell you where they're going when we go to the state of the city. 04:10:38.580 --> 04:10:40.580 And if you happen to drive out Washington via Marelli, 04:10:43.740 --> 04:10:45.740 which I would like to know how semis can park all along 04:10:47.460 --> 04:10:49.420 that way for an extended period of time because you should not be able 04:10:51.261 --> 04:10:53.261 to park semi-trucks along Weber there on the six 04:10:55.981 --> 04:10:57.981 or 700, 800 block West Weber. 04:10:59.701 --> 04:11:02.181 But as you travel out that way and you're on your way 04:11:02.181 --> 04:11:04.181 out to the port, there's a big grassy field 04:11:05.141 --> 04:11:07.141 and that grassy field now is become the festival grounds 04:11:10.981 --> 04:11:12.981 for unsheltered trailers, tents, cars. 04:11:15.261 --> 04:11:17.261 I thought it was one of those what is it called? 04:11:18.210 --> 04:11:20.210 The Naked Man or Burning Man? 04:11:20.181 --> 04:11:22.701 Excuse me, not naked man. I just happened to see Naked Man out there. 04:11:23.901 --> 04:11:25.901 But The Burning Man concert, I 04:11:26.381 --> 04:11:28.381 I almost think it's like a Burning Man 04:11:30.501 --> 04:11:33.381 month out there. I hope not, because we are in a drought, 04:11:35.101 --> 04:11:37.101 even though we had some, you know, weird rain the other week. 04:11:39.610 --> 04:11:41.610 But I am very concerned about that. 04:11:41.222 --> 04:11:43.222 Would love to know who the property owner is 04:11:43.462 --> 04:11:45.262 if they're securing it. But then, hey, I'm almost at the point 04:11:46.220 --> 04:11:48.220 where I'm like, hey, everybody, go out there. 04:11:48.620 --> 04:11:50.182 Fine by me. It's fenced. There you go. 04:11:52.302 --> 04:11:54.462 Have have at it. It's not a city property 04:11:55.982 --> 04:11:57.982 I'm moving on. 04:11:58.220 --> 04:12:00.220 I would like to remind everybody it is 04:12:01.502 --> 04:12:03.502 Stockton, a small business week. 04:12:04.220 --> 04:12:06.220 There are so many things going on for businesses out there. 04:12:07.142 --> 04:12:09.622 We want you to be successful. We know that you're our bread and butter 04:12:10.622 --> 04:12:13.262 and we need to support you. There's a maker's made up pop up that has happening downtown 04:12:16.742 --> 04:12:18.862 at the Court Plaza. 306 East Main Street Monday 04:12:21.262 --> 04:12:23.262 through Friday between 1130 and 4 p.m. 04:12:24.582 --> 04:12:26.582 so that's handmade creations from local makers. 04:12:29.142 --> 04:12:32.630 Also there is I got to skip that one 04:12:34.623 --> 04:12:36.623 on Wednesday tomorrow from nine to 11, 9 a.m. 04:12:38.743 --> 04:12:40.863 to 11 p.m. there is government contracts and business resource event 04:12:44.630 --> 04:12:47.230 so I often get asked, hey, how can I be one of the vendors for the city or how can I get 04:12:48.630 --> 04:12:50.903 some of those government contracts? Well, here is your opportunity for those of you out there 04:12:53.903 --> 04:12:56.383 that would like to do that. All of this can be found online 04:12:58.503 --> 04:13:00.503 on downtown Stockton Alliance page. 04:13:01.583 --> 04:13:03.583 There's reference to our page as well. 04:13:03.743 --> 04:13:05.743 There's also access to capital summit capital, meaning money. 04:13:08.823 --> 04:13:10.823 OK, so it's an invitation. 04:13:11.623 --> 04:13:13.623 This is also for tomorrow for small businesses 04:13:13.823 --> 04:13:15.823 to meet with local dignitaries, not me. 04:13:16.263 --> 04:13:18.343 I'll be at school and listen to a panel of financial institutions 04:13:20.704 --> 04:13:22.704 on the funding opportunities available to small businesses. 04:13:24.784 --> 04:13:26.784 And then our Greater Stockton Chamber 04:13:27.904 --> 04:13:29.904 is doing a business orientation on Thursday, 04:13:31.864 --> 04:13:34.640 as well as there's a commercial property requirements event on Thursday, 04:13:36.824 --> 04:13:38.824 Mexican Heritage Center Working Artists Panel 04:13:40.224 --> 04:13:42.224 on Thursday and Business Certificate Programs 04:13:43.824 --> 04:13:46.184 also on Thursday. So lots going on for small businesses in our city 04:13:49.704 --> 04:13:51.704 and how you can we can help you 04:13:52.744 --> 04:13:54.744 be as successful as you want to be. 04:13:55.744 --> 04:13:57.744 And lastly, in case any of you didn't know, this happens 04:13:59.584 --> 04:14:01.584 to be Teacher Appreciation Week and none of us in this room 04:14:04.544 --> 04:14:06.104 can say that there hasn't been education at some point in your life. 04:14:09.184 --> 04:14:11.184 Hopefully somebody that gave you words of encouragement, 04:14:11.905 --> 04:14:14.545 a teacher that you remember, a teacher that has impacted your life, a teacher 04:14:16.465 --> 04:14:18.465 that has helped you become who you are today. 04:14:19.665 --> 04:14:21.665 And if you could please take a minute of your time 04:14:22.905 --> 04:14:24.905 in this week, in this month, in this year to thank a teacher, 04:14:27.785 --> 04:14:29.785 it would be greatly appreciated, not by me, 04:14:30.305 --> 04:14:32.705 but by those teachers because I will tell you, when my students 04:14:33.345 --> 04:14:36.185 have come back to my classroom, invariably I always tell them, wait till you're 25. 04:14:37.505 --> 04:14:39.505 Then you'll get it and you'll come back. 04:14:39.865 --> 04:14:42.145 They have come back. I've had students of all ages come back. 04:14:43.345 --> 04:14:45.345 I have students that are in their forties 04:14:45.465 --> 04:14:47.465 now, which tells you how old I am that. Are. 04:14:48.665 --> 04:14:50.665 Very successful, successful moms dads, doctors, 04:14:53.225 --> 04:14:55.225 nurses, business owners, small business owners, realtors. 04:14:57.905 --> 04:15:00.225 I mean, you can go on the list. I literally can call up a student 04:15:01.386 --> 04:15:03.386 to get just about anything I need in terms of service. 04:15:04.586 --> 04:15:07.346 A former student. I love that. 04:15:07.626 --> 04:15:09.466 I've been a I've been a part of so many of our youth in this community 04:15:12.546 --> 04:15:14.546 and a part of their lives and see them grow and flourish. 04:15:16.186 --> 04:15:18.186 I wish I could say that was for all of them. 04:15:18.346 --> 04:15:20.346 I do want that for all of them, though. 04:15:20.586 --> 04:15:22.586 Which is why I show up to work every day 04:15:24.346 --> 04:15:26.346 and hope to make that positive impact in their life. 04:15:27.186 --> 04:15:29.186 So if you run into one of your teachers please give them 04:15:31.266 --> 04:15:33.586 a word of thanks. And that's what I'll close with 04:15:35.226 --> 04:15:37.226 Councilmember Campo. Thank you, Mayor. 04:15:37.266 --> 04:15:39.866 I just have a few things. I also was at the factory on Friday night, and it was a cool event 04:15:42.666 --> 04:15:44.186 to see because everybody always says that there's nothing to do for 04:15:46.626 --> 04:15:49.186 young adults in Stockton. I mean, they had food two different types of food. 04:15:51.107 --> 04:15:53.107 They had a basketball tournament inside. 04:15:54.670 --> 04:15:56.947 They had kids of all ages. And it just actually made me happy to see 04:15:59.787 --> 04:16:01.787 the interaction of all the people in the area. 04:16:03.427 --> 04:16:05.427 I also attended the Cinco de Mayo Parade, which is another 04:16:06.227 --> 04:16:08.227 diversity, amazing event in the city of Stockton. 04:16:09.427 --> 04:16:11.427 And then they had the festival afterwards, which was amazing. 04:16:13.507 --> 04:16:15.507 This this week we talked about the culvert repairs. 04:16:17.227 --> 04:16:19.907 I was just wondering when that's going to start, because the county has Pershing closed 04:16:22.187 --> 04:16:24.187 and then we're going to have Alexandria closed. 04:16:24.467 --> 04:16:26.467 So I worry about the people, the people coming down, 04:16:28.827 --> 04:16:30.827 you know, Lincoln Road are going to be landlocked. 04:16:32.670 --> 04:16:34.670 So I don't know what our plans are for detouring because 04:16:35.387 --> 04:16:37.387 we have two detours going. 04:16:38.547 --> 04:16:40.547 We sent out a fact sheet on that yesterday. 04:16:41.308 --> 04:16:43.308 I don't have it in front of me, but it has all of 04:16:43.588 --> 04:16:46.268 that information in it now. I shared it. So I figured that part of 04:16:46.268 --> 04:16:49.280 this is also one from the county that I shared. OK, good. 04:16:49.280 --> 04:16:51.280 So but it's going to cause problems because people going in 04:16:52.828 --> 04:16:54.828 to possibly go by purging, to go north on Alexandria 04:16:56.508 --> 04:16:59.308 are going to be landlocked. So how we deal with that. 04:17:00.508 --> 04:17:03.680 We're just going to have to manage it very carefully and very closely. 04:17:06.708 --> 04:17:09.428 While we while we get the work done. But we'll we'll provide regular updates and 04:17:13.108 --> 04:17:15.108 and information to you all as well as to the public. 04:17:16.508 --> 04:17:18.508 And then the final note, it's just the same thing. 04:17:19.708 --> 04:17:22.548 And the Miracle Mile as far as the darkness and the burnout building. 04:17:26.680 --> 04:17:28.680 So how you know what I mean? Do we stand behind? 04:17:28.468 --> 04:17:30.788 I mean, it's everywhere, but it just seems like the same folks 04:17:32.429 --> 04:17:34.709 that are creating the havoc. They're breaking windows, breaking into buildings. 04:17:36.429 --> 04:17:38.290 I don't know if I mean, it's all over, but I mean, if we can start 04:17:40.669 --> 04:17:42.669 to figure out a way to keep people moving, 04:17:43.789 --> 04:17:46.629 I know it's health and safety issues because obviously it's it's not clean in the area. 04:17:50.309 --> 04:17:52.309 But I know that funding source 04:17:52.709 --> 04:17:55.629 is coming back for the bump outs and things like that. It was supposed to been on this meeting. 04:17:56.189 --> 04:17:58.269 I've been asking so if that could come forward and I don't know which 04:18:00.389 --> 04:18:02.389 which pot of money that was going to come out of. 04:18:02.629 --> 04:18:05.589 I thought it was going to be on this meeting but if we could get clarity on that. 04:18:08.349 --> 04:18:11.290 That items should be coming to you all, maybe at the next council meeting is what I'm thinking. 04:18:13.229 --> 04:18:15.429 OK, because they've been asking so and I did want to thank you on getting that fact sheet out. 04:18:17.789 --> 04:18:19.629 That was very helpful. So we posted it so people can go to the city's website 04:18:21.990 --> 04:18:23.990 and find out the road closures on Alexandria 04:18:25.230 --> 04:18:27.950 because it's going to wreak havoc. They're having a Frisbee golf 04:18:28.750 --> 04:18:30.750 tournament there and graduations coming from Lincoln, 04:18:31.870 --> 04:18:33.510 the high school. So it's going to be very interesting 04:18:34.790 --> 04:18:37.510 traversing around that area. So with that, I will close my comments. 04:18:40.670 --> 04:18:41.910 Yeah. And I'll just say thank you, Vice Mayor Fugazi, for reminding 04:18:44.390 --> 04:18:46.390 us that it's Teachers Appreciation Week. 04:18:48.300 --> 04:18:50.300 So want the public to know that there are educators, 04:18:51.630 --> 04:18:53.630 former educators, and 04:18:55.510 --> 04:18:58.300 members of this dais that have family members who are educators as well. 04:19:01.300 --> 04:19:03.300 And just thank you all for your service to to our community. 04:19:06.990 --> 04:19:08.990 Thank you to all the educators who make a difference 04:19:09.910 --> 04:19:11.910 in the hearts and lives of of of our next generation, 04:19:13.431 --> 04:19:15.431 the future leaders, business owners, 04:19:16.431 --> 04:19:18.431 community members, 04:19:19.671 --> 04:19:21.671 fathers, mothers of our community. 04:19:23.631 --> 04:19:25.631 We really, really appreciate your work and your sacrifice. 04:19:26.911 --> 04:19:28.911 I believe being an educator 04:19:28.951 --> 04:19:30.951 is one of the most challenging vocations. 04:19:33.151 --> 04:19:35.151 But yet I believe for those who serve in that capacity, 04:19:37.151 --> 04:19:39.151 it's one of the most fulfilling as well. 04:19:40.111 --> 04:19:42.111 So just thank you for it for everything that you do. 04:19:43.591 --> 04:19:46.511 Thank you to my council colleagues who will be at the Peace Officer Memorial tomorrow. 04:19:50.431 --> 04:19:52.431 I had every intention of being there, 04:19:52.591 --> 04:19:54.591 but unfortunately, I won't be able to be there 04:19:55.471 --> 04:19:57.471 because I will be paying my respects to the family 04:19:59.551 --> 04:20:02.112 of of Lala. During that same time, 04:20:03.592 --> 04:20:05.592 the Cinco de Mayo Parade was an amazing experience 04:20:08.432 --> 04:20:10.432 I ran into today at the 04:20:11.232 --> 04:20:12.792 the law. Appreciate lunch today. 04:20:15.152 --> 04:20:17.912 What is it again, lady? Yeah, yeah. 04:20:19.112 --> 04:20:21.112 Man to the leadership at el consigliore 04:20:22.112 --> 04:20:24.112 and they were really appreciative of the council 04:20:25.232 --> 04:20:27.232 and the city and just that experience. 04:20:28.592 --> 04:20:30.592 I think it was well overdue for our community. 04:20:31.752 --> 04:20:33.752 I think our community is ready 04:20:34.152 --> 04:20:36.152 to come together and just have a great time 04:20:37.592 --> 04:20:39.592 this past Sunday, especially in the midst of, 04:20:41.312 --> 04:20:43.312 you know, everything that we've had to deal with 04:20:45.320 --> 04:20:47.832 year to date. There wasn't one moment out there 04:20:48.832 --> 04:20:50.832 on the streets of downtown Stockton that I felt unsafe. 04:20:52.233 --> 04:20:54.233 And I want the public to know that, 04:20:54.513 --> 04:20:56.513 you know, you have a beautiful downtown 04:20:57.513 --> 04:20:59.513 I want to you know, I want to encourage you 04:20:59.713 --> 04:21:01.713 to frequent your downtown area, frequent those businesses out 04:21:03.873 --> 04:21:05.873 there, frequent are great assets of the waterfront, the arena, 04:21:08.913 --> 04:21:10.913 our professional sports teams, you know, the the ports. 04:21:12.873 --> 04:21:14.873 We have a beautiful city. 04:21:15.593 --> 04:21:17.593 And I'm just looking forward to the month of May. 04:21:18.353 --> 04:21:20.353 There's going to be several activities downtown. 04:21:21.153 --> 04:21:23.153 I want to encourage the public to to really participate. 04:21:25.513 --> 04:21:28.513 Yeah. And we have an amazing hockey team as well that, you know, the Stockton Heat. 04:21:31.793 --> 04:21:33.793 I see my my friend Nate is still in the building. 04:21:35.730 --> 04:21:37.730 The Stockton Heat there, their playoff game 04:21:38.473 --> 04:21:40.473 is this coming Wednesday, May 11th. 04:21:41.674 --> 04:21:43.994 It is my daughter's birthday. But I will be in D.C. 04:21:44.674 --> 04:21:46.674 with with some of my colleagues. 04:21:47.674 --> 04:21:49.674 But I want to encourage, hey, let's let's pack that place out 04:21:51.340 --> 04:21:53.234 Stockton and and show our heat some love 04:21:53.594 --> 04:21:56.594 so that they can advance in the playoff and, you know, bring home the cup. 04:21:57.354 --> 04:21:59.354 Let's let's do it. 04:21:59.394 --> 04:22:01.394 And then last but not least, 04:22:01.874 --> 04:22:03.874 on March 26th of this year, 04:22:05.754 --> 04:22:07.754 we lost a matriarch in our city 04:22:08.554 --> 04:22:10.554 and her service was held this past Saturday. 04:22:14.340 --> 04:22:16.340 And she has a plaque named after her in our town. 04:22:18.154 --> 04:22:20.154 And that's Miss Mattie Harrell. 04:22:20.394 --> 04:22:22.394 And so what I would like to do is I would just like to close 04:22:24.714 --> 04:22:26.714 tonight's meeting with a moment of silence 04:22:28.554 --> 04:22:30.554 to honor her respect to her family as well. 04:22:33.315 --> 04:22:35.315 So shall we bow our heads 04:22:46.555 --> 04:22:49.195 thank you. At the summit, during the meeting, the motion to adjourn. 04:22:52.350 --> 04:22:54.835 On the favor. Meeting's adjourned. Thank you.